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Old 06-22-2007, 02:34 AM
RainbowBright RainbowBright is offline
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Default NL25 TT

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $25.35
BB: $73.85
UTG: $15.55
CO: $36.45
Hero (BTN): $25.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO raises to $1.00, Hero calls $1.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.35) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO bets $3.00, Hero calls $3.00

River: ($11.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Pot Size: $11.35 ($0.55 Rake)
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: NL25 TT

reraise preflop, makes the hand easier to play
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:46 AM
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Default Re: NL25 TT

I agree reraise pre-flop.

As played I think this looks fine.
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Old 06-22-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: NL25 TT

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reraise preflop, makes the hand easier to play

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I think it might make it easier to play but I also think it's less EV.
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:08 PM
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reraise preflop, makes the hand easier to play

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I think it might make it easier to play but I also think it's less EV.

[/ QUOTE ]I disagree about the less ev part. Lots of times you win this preflop and lots of times you just call preflop you're going to fold the winner.
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:11 PM
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Mix it up with RR preflop here, maybe 75 raise, 25 call. The real difference in terms of EV here comes in when you're opponent bricks a Axx, Kxx, Qxx board but cbets and you fold. Of course, if you RR preflop and the flop is A x x, villain may c/r with AK which loses you your preflop RR and cbet.

As played I want to find a raise on the flop or turn here, preferably flop. Villain is probably c-betting or has a draw of some kind, may be better to wait for a safe turn card before putting more money in since they may push a drawy hand like AdKd if you reraise.
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:13 PM
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villain may c/r with AK which loses you your preflop RR and cbet.


[/ QUOTE ]I really really think this is a bad way of looking at things. Both of these bets have different ev and are not at all the same.
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Old 06-22-2007, 02:15 PM
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jessy - I was comparing the EV of re-raising preflop versus calling preflop, both lead to different situations on later streets and thus the EV of RR preflop/calling preflop depends on the bets you lose/make later on.
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Old 06-22-2007, 04:32 PM
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Mix it up with RR preflop here, maybe 75 raise, 25 call. The real difference in terms of EV here comes in when you're opponent bricks a Axx, Kxx, Qxx board but cbets and you fold. Of course, if you RR preflop and the flop is A x x, villain may c/r with AK which loses you your preflop RR and cbet.

As played I want to find a raise on the flop or turn here, preferably flop. Villain is probably c-betting or has a draw of some kind, may be better to wait for a safe turn card before putting more money in since they may push a drawy hand like AdKd if you reraise.

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If I call preflop, I'm never folding to a continuation bet, no matter what comes. The reason for calling preflop is that if I reraise then TT is at the bottom of my range of hands. So if I reraise preflop, then I can't really expect the villain to be calling with worse hands. Therefore, I don't think there's much more value in reraising with TT vs 22.

Whereas, if I call then TT is at the top of my range and the value on the flop is significantly different.
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