This Forum Will Close June 30th

[Suigin406]

wow, tough to see this forum go as i, and i'm sure others, have learned a lot from reading A/R...

PA, thx for all the hard work u put into this to help people understand and get rakeback, appreciated...

[Chomp]

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wow, tough to see this forum go as i, and i'm sure others, have learned a lot from reading A/R...

PA, thx for all the hard work u put into this to help people understand and get rakeback, appreciated...

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[Sigurd]

[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I kind of liked this place..

[Blue Lagoon]

Without this kind of forum, I am not sure I would still play poker...and win money.
So tx

[archie_wilde]

Closing. Yeah it is too bad but not suprising. I have received two great rb offers thru this forum with twoplustwo sponsored sites which may not of happened without this forum. Also threads like the party situation were quite helpful.
Its obviously the rakeback sites/advertisers at twoplustwo
are responsible for having this informative and helpful forum shutdown. They are already making buckets of money from players and they obviously want more. So their solution is to limit player communication and get overly protective of their interests. To me, this is bad business. Without the players they make nothing. I liken it to the way professional sports operates in North America. Decisions are consistently made to benefit owners and players and to hell with the fans who line their pockets.
IMO this type of action is of no benefit to the players who make the poker world go around. I also think its a dumb move by the affilates to have a forum like this closed. They are starting to behave more and more like the poker sites by finding new ways to reduce players' communication, alternatives, and freedoms. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[Sinister_Kane]

Who exactly is pushing this to be closed and why though? I dont get it?

If you are talking about merging the bonus forum and this, then this forum is basically still alive.

Also, there are 2 forums that offer rakeback here that are sponsored.

So I dont understand the motive

[MoistToes]

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So I dont understand the motive

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The motive is to take away an unbiased forum that everyone has access to and limit the player's choices so the flow of information will be controlled by a limited few rakeback sites.

If you are a rakeback site paying a lot of money for a forum you should be pleased.

If you are a person who wants unbiased rakeback/affiliate information and feedback you won't find it at 2 + 2 after this forum closes.

[StellarWind]

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Who exactly is pushing this to be closed and why though?

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I believe Pokeraddict answered both your questions in the OP:

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I have been told by the admins that this forum will close on June 30th. The amount of questionable threads and spammy posts have led to this.

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It's really as simple as that. 2+2 management has never been comfortable with rakeback discussion. This forum was created by a paying sponsor who has long since withdrawn. Money is the only reason they ever allowed this in the first place. If PA hadn't stepped in and agreed to mod I'm sure it would have been closed long ago.

Please don't blame this on the major rakeback affiliates because they have little influence and are actually among the victims. This forum has been instrumental in both growing the rakeback customer base and directing the business toward the major reputable firms. Without it many new players will either not have rakeback at all or will be sucked in by scamsters.

Of course the primary enemies of rakeback are most of the rooms and their non-rakeback affiliates. They are the ones who complain about what goes on here. For example do you really think PartyPoker is happy about what goes on in this forum? We can only guess what their affiliate manager has been saying since 2+2 joined their program.