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Old 06-20-2007, 10:51 PM
Retribution1824 Retribution1824 is offline
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Default Re: $100NL QQ 3Handed 200BB Deep

i like preflop and flop obv., but i dont think i can ever find a fold turn here... river is prolly a 60/40 lay for me
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Old 06-20-2007, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: $100NL QQ 3Handed 200BB Deep

I think putting in 3/4 of a stack on the river with this action and board with QQ is a pretty huge leak without a very good read.
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Old 06-20-2007, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: $100NL QQ 3Handed 200BB Deep

villain doesnt seem stupid either, and your hand is very weak according to villain at this point, bet/call flop and flat call turn? i dont think villain can be certain of anything better than a [censored]-played AT at this point... i think it's read dependent and how YOU've played thus far... if you've been a complete nit or maniac i think this hand could be continued differently
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Old 06-20-2007, 11:02 PM
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Default Re: $100NL QQ 3Handed 200BB Deep

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villain doesnt seem stupid either, and your hand is very weak according to villain at this point

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lol no. A lot of people could easily have hands as strong as like T9 here, or even stronger if they want to be tricky. This is EXACTLY how 90% of people play their big pairs here also.
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Old 06-20-2007, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: $100NL QQ 3Handed 200BB Deep

im not saying river is a definite call by any means, im just saying hero could be holding almost anything at this point, which is why to make this call i think we need more information about the past 50 hands between hero and villain... we also have to realize this is 3 headed here...
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Old 06-20-2007, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: $100NL QQ 3Handed 200BB Deep

Nah I think the river is a pretty clear fold. Unfortunately I called like a donk and villian flipped over 44 for the flopped FH.
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Old 06-21-2007, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: $100NL QQ 3Handed 200BB Deep

This is so much dependant on aggression of villain.
I might run villains line with a nfd type hand and 3barrel spew my chips away most of the time trying to get you to fold a pp. So, if you have ever seen villain get out of line or 2barrel air before, then this is by no way a clear fold.

I don't think calling down here is that bad at all.
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