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Old 06-19-2007, 04:53 PM
nickcee nickcee is offline
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Default Re: What to do with this one?

Fold PF. Drawing to flushes on paired boards use to be the death of me. I'm not saying I don't do it; it's just that there is no reason to risk that many chips on this type of hand when you don't have to. If you are going to raise the draw,put in a good size bet and fold to a reraise. What do you expect the donk bet to accomplish? As hand was played, fold the river.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:53 PM
Th3R3dDr4g0n Th3R3dDr4g0n is offline
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Not getting it in on this river is terrible. This is clearly a low buyin, people would do this with a T, with a straight or probly even an 8 or some other hand. Never ever fold this river, especially when the hand played out as it did.

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Am I just reading this all wrong? He did not make his flush, the other guy all but assuredly has this guy beat if nothing else on high card? And he's supposed to push? I think ya misglanced the HH... right?
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:59 PM
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From what I can see he holds 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and the flop came T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and the turn comes J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] which would give OP the flush that he should not be folding on the river.
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Old 06-19-2007, 05:00 PM
Th3R3dDr4g0n Th3R3dDr4g0n is offline
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Wow talk about egg on my face, my bad for sure.
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Old 06-19-2007, 05:00 PM
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Am I just reading this all wrong? He did not make his flush, the other guy all but assuredly has this guy beat if nothing else on high card? And he's supposed to push? I think ya misglanced the HH... right?

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He made his flush on the turn.
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Old 06-19-2007, 05:02 PM
Th3R3dDr4g0n Th3R3dDr4g0n is offline
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I think I've had too much soda today...
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Old 06-19-2007, 05:04 PM
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<font color="red">Fold pf, as played calling the minraise is fine.

Minraising the flop is really bad though and pointless, so just call the 30 flop bet.</font>

On the turn you aren't betting nearly enough, I don't feel like figuring out the pot but I'm assuming its somewhere around 450 so I would make a raise to something like 300-350.

Don't fold this river, clearly everyone is a donk for how they bet and played out this hand and you already invested around half your chips. If they have a full house then reload.

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Hand is pretty much butchered the whole way, but you got what you wanted in the end, so get your chips in!
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Old 06-19-2007, 05:10 PM
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fold pre call river
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Old 06-19-2007, 05:34 PM
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The flop: Td 8d Tc gives me a nice flush draw. The small blind checks, next bets 30 next one folds. I raise 30, get called. Small blind folds and big blind calls.


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nut flush draws are 'nice flush draws' ... espeically with over cards/straight draws ... a 7 high flush draw on a paired b oard is not a 'nice flush draw'
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Old 06-19-2007, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: What to do with this one?

You played it horribly IMO, but you should call the river expecting to be ahead, because your opponents seem equally bad.
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