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Old 06-19-2007, 03:08 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
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Default Quickie preflop

Guy just pushed the previous hand over my raise. Insta call right?

Sports Exchange (WSEX)
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.50/$1 Blinds
6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $52.00
BB: $74.71
UTG: $99.20
Hero (MP): $113.65
CO: $127.60
BTN: $105.20

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $52.00</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $48.00
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:16 PM
gezuz gezuz is offline
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Default Re: Quickie preflop

varrrriance. I probably lay it down, if he's willing to push preflop then he has some definite leaks later down the road.
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: Quickie preflop

I still fold. From my experiences, people who reraise from just pushing prior usually have big hands.
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: Quickie preflop

i call
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: Quickie preflop

For 20-30 BB I call, but for 50 it's kind of borderline, leaning towards fold unless he's a total spaz. You're either racing or crushed, while very occasionally ahead of 66-88.
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: Quickie preflop

I call.
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: Quickie preflop

You need like 46% equity. Even just 77+,AJ+ will get it.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

934,917,984 games 0.005 secs 186,983,596,800 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.348% 45.61% 00.74% 426394068 6924342.00 { 99 }
Hand 1: 53.652% 52.91% 00.74% 494675232 6924342.00 { 77+, AJs+, AJo+ }


And if he shoves with more pairs and less big cards it just gets better obv:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

832,179,744 games 0.005 secs 166,435,948,800 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.262% 46.44% 00.82% 386494680 6807468.00 { 99 }
Hand 1: 52.738% 51.92% 00.82% 432070128 6807468.00 { 66+, AQs+, AQo+ }


So if he's making a habit of this it definitely looks like a call and you can prolly add some real random hands into that range.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:10 PM
Noam Chomsky Noam Chomsky is offline
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I call. Hell, I call this a lot with no history and I'm positive it's profitable.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:28 PM
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If you're not gonna go on tilt when he snaps you off with A3off, sure, call.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: Quickie preflop

I figured this was a call, looks like most people agree. IMO at worst we're usually flipping coins, but a good chunk of the time he only has one big card.

Here he had AKo and I lost the coinflip.
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