200NL qks on the button

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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $53.35
BB: $268.85
UTG: $390.50
MP: $237.95
CO: $370.55
Hero (BTN): $335.40

Reads: <font color="blue">Only seen the opponent for 30 hands or so. Playing 45/17/1.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $8.00</font>, CO calls $8.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $32.00</font>, 3 folds, CO calls $24.00

Flop: ($75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $48.00</font>, CO calls $48.00

Turn: ($171) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($171) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $172.00</font>, Hero Folds

Pot Size: $343.00 ($3 Rake)

Should I have bet the turn? If so how much? And do I call a shove with effective stack sizes?

[ofishstix]

in general, i feel people usually dont bet that turn enough. given stacks though, in this case, i think its probably worth a check behind. river is fairly straight forward fold imo.

[creamdog]

IMHO his play screams junky suited Ax, so I would bet strong on the turn, 2/3 - 3/4 pot so if he does call its wrong. But the river is an easy fold.

[the machine]

as in sublimes post earlier in 3 bet pots we dont need to be firing this flop all that often. esp when its suited and no broadways. PP's will look you up alot

bet/fold the turn

river is a fold

[creamdog]

I personally think you need to bet that flop. I didn't read the other post so I can compare to his reasoning

[the machine]

why do we need to bet this flop. we have no draw and its purely a bluff. we dont even have ace high and even with ace hgih there is no way this considered a value bet here

[creamdog]

There are a few reasons,
1) He reraised preflop to a cold caller, means there is a good chance he is ahead and can take it down there.
2) If the villain has a hand we can get away from ours now and not run into bigger problems later if we catch.
3) If he has a similar had to ours we can get more money in for later because we are not normally worse than 60/40 dog.

[the machine]

how do we know if he ahs a hand when we bet and are called. the board is super wet with draws.

not to mention thats his vpip is 45 and this flop hits a lot of his range. so given that we bet and we now got there on the turn we dont know where we stand.

[creamdog]

I am 75% sure he is on a flush draw. Maybe, A10. he has more than nothing for sure but not a lot(read: set).

[radioheadfan]

overbet shove the turn