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Old 06-17-2007, 11:30 AM
metamath metamath is offline
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Default wtf... am i supposed to fold these?

Both of these spots had me confused...

Hand 1:

100NL, 100 effective stacks and no reads.

Button raises to 4, I defend from the SB w/ j9dd, BB calls.

Flop (12): [Qd, 10d, As]

I bet 10, BB raises to 25, Button pushes. I...?


Hand 2:

A couple of orbits later, I have 250 and have been 3betting like a madman.

Villain raises UTG to 4, I 3bet from the button to 14 w/ black KK, Villain calls.

Flop (29.5): [Qc, Jh, 8d]

Villain donks into me for 25. I...?

And if I call, what is my plan for a blank turn? a face card?
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Old 06-17-2007, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: wtf... am i supposed to fold these?

hand 1: I call here. If BB comes along it's perfect. If BB folds, you still have reasonably good odds.

hand 2: Given you've been 3betting like a madman, don't call, but shove.
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Old 06-17-2007, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: wtf... am i supposed to fold these?

hand 1, insta-call. oesfd, you have ~30% equity against their ranges in a 3-way all-in pot.

hand 2, what's villain's stack size ? if it's 100, I call flop and get it in on a non A turn.
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Old 06-17-2007, 04:14 PM
metamath metamath is offline
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Default Re: wtf... am i supposed to fold these?

Hand 2: Yes, he has 100.

Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but I feel like I always run into an ace-hi flush draw in situations like hand 1.
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Old 06-17-2007, 05:02 PM
matt85 matt85 is offline
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Default Re: wtf... am i supposed to fold these?

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hand 1, insta-call. oesfd, you have ~30% equity against their ranges in a 3-way all-in pot.

hand 2, what's villain's stack size ? if it's 100, I call flop and get it in on a non A turn.

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