tough spot vs willw9

[delta k]

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you can't say that it's an easy fold w/ AJ and that he never has air, because if you'll fold as hand as strong as AJ here then making plays with air becomes EXTREMELY profitable, obviously.

now i think his raise size tells us he has either a draw or a hand. but i'm leaning towards draw- something he wouldn't mind taking down now. a much smaller raise would have worked as bluff just as well, IMO, and the chances that he makes such a huge raise on a bluff here is pretty low i think.

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Agreed 100%. Although I think the majority of 2p2ers would fold AJ to a raise here in this multiway pot, and a bluff here I think is definitely profitable, but I don't think most people would just raise here with air regardless.

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AP,

I'm c/r A high flops a lot versus good players (like almost always) because they need AQ or AK a lot of the time to continue and can convince themselves to fold those from time to time, too. With any other A is a simple fold for a decent player.

[cwar]

Whether a bluff here is profitable or not depends a lot on MP and BB's preflop range.

[Fonkey123]

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Calling in this spot is idiotic. Your either pushing or folding (assuming villan will keep the pressure). Raising air is horrible here IMO. There are probably 7-8 hands that will continue to a nice raise, but HERO has over repped his hand here by betting into a large field. My main point is that 200NL is pretty easy and there is honestly no reason to try and "outplay" people; it's just spew bc nobody ever folds at 200 [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I don't understand what's wrong with calling, and getting it in on non spade turns. This was my gut instinct when I saw the hand, closely ahead of folding, and wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ahead of pushing. A push gets called by his entire range, which we're [censored] by. After this flop range (maybe it's cuz I talk with him offline), I feel he won't be checking turn behind often. Calling and check/calling non spade turns seems g00t.

[Pirelli]

I think he is more likely to have you beaten/flipping then have nothing. The reason being there are 2 people behind him. If you were UTG and bet, 2 people folded then he raised I think his range is a little wider, but I don't like the idea of putting more money in this pot as played.

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delta,
when your c/r-ing A high flops with air, your doing it when you have an ace as well, right?