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Old 06-15-2007, 01:37 AM
wizexel22 wizexel22 is offline
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Default Re: why books and advices suck

Haha, I know a guy that has lost a TON of money playing poker. I've seen him play and I've always thought he sucked. Little did I know I was watching one of the best players in the world!
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Old 06-15-2007, 02:09 AM
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Default Re: why books and advices suck

Does your friend give private lessons?
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Old 06-18-2007, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: why books and advices suck

matusow definitely has his issues... but even doyle
brunson admits in his book that he gambled most of
his poker winnings off on sports betting.

i like the norman chad line where matusow lost $200,000
( or some large figure ) online in 2 months and then
ditched his computer. i've heard matusow himself say
when he won the tournament of champions, that $1,000,000
was gone in 3 days.

don't know what matusow's issue is. self-destructive
personality, i guess.
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Old 06-18-2007, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: why books and advices suck

Maybe he says that with the wrong words!

I think he wants to say that books cant help your game by reading an advice out of it, follow the gameplan through a game and be the WINNER.

My personal experience showed me, that I do already the most things which are written in books. But I do alot better by find them out by myself not by reading them. that Cost you money, but on the Micro tables only the Price of one or two books [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] so what, if you are on higher stakes I would say you dont need any book, you learn from what you have observed. It is really interesting watching other players during a game, I learned a lot from the loose players and thight players around me.
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Old 06-18-2007, 05:31 PM
El_Hombre_Grande El_Hombre_Grande is offline
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Default Re: why books and advices suck

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Yeah, I'd rather trust the guy that has won the most money.

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Haha, good point. Cept, Gold is FAR from being the player that has won the most money. Yeah he's won the most tournament money due to his WSOP win, but the best poker players in the world have easily won more than the 6-7 million dollar cut (out of the 12 million prize) that Gold got. Everyone knows the most money made is actually in the high roller cash games. Not sure who it is, but it sure ain't Jamie Gold with his 7 million dollars.

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Old 06-18-2007, 09:44 PM
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I think he wants to say that books cant help your game by reading an advice out of it, follow the gameplan through a game and be the WINNER.

My personal experience showed me, that I do already the most things which are written in books. But I do alot better by find them out by myself not by reading them.

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That's right, why learn poker theory from books in a couple of months when you can spend 30 years trying to learn it at the tables? (and still be far from grasping many of the concepts you would've found in books)
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Old 06-19-2007, 09:14 AM
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Yeah, I'd rather trust the guy that has won the most money.

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Old 06-19-2007, 09:55 AM
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The winners aren't incredibly adaquate in skills, but have better dicipline and money management.

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Once again, poker is a game of money played with cards.

It is the guy who wins the money that is the best player, as he has achieved his objective. Anything else is hogswallop.

It always reminds me of the guy in The Cincinnatti Kid, who is always jotting something down in his little book, and then finally pushes and gets called. His is bewildered as he gets called, because his opponent shouldn't have called him. Perhaps guys like him are the most skillfull, but also the most broke.

When I come to think of it, perhaps he is right, because I stink at poker, and I am winning, it is the skillfull players that are the fish. Yipeee.

Here little fishy, here fishy-fishy [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:11 AM
Al Mirpuri Al Mirpuri is offline
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the best players i know aren't the big winners, but rather the ones that have lost a lot in the past and have learned a lot. The winners aren't incredibly adaquate in skills, but have better dicipline and money management. i always see books saying how the author won this and this amount and how u can do it too. but the ultimate book would be some1 like matusow saying how he lost $xxx,xxx,xxx amounts of money and thats what would really make a player better.

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If you had read a book then you would know that that plural of 'advice' is 'advice'.

Leaving that aside, if you read poker books you do not need to lose anything before you become a winning player though the additional experience of play is of the utmost importance in the making of a winning player.
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:15 AM
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I think OP should be made the new spokesperson for poker.
I can just picture the partypoker add: its not how well you play, its how much you can lose.
This thinking needs to be preached to all new players.
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