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Old 06-14-2007, 06:07 AM
DerekP DerekP is offline
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Default NL25 - TPTK, Paried Turn

Was the river bet good, or a wasted bet? Would you fold or call?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $24.50
BB: $35.70
UTG: $5.85
CO: $17.80
BTN: $24.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, BTN calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $1.00

Flop: ($2.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.00</font>, BTN calls $2.00

Turn: ($6.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, BTN calls $3.50

River: ($13.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $7.75</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $17.65</font>, Hero ?

Pot Size: $49.05 ($2.45 Rake)
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:10 AM
Fiksdal Fiksdal is offline
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Default Re: NL25 - TPTK, Paried Turn

I like your line so far. River is an easy fold. He would have flat called with all the hands you beat, but is shoving all the ones that beat you. Villain has Tx or a boat here about every time.
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:13 AM
hoyasaxa hoyasaxa is offline
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Default Re: NL25 - TPTK, Paried Turn

I do not like the river bet. You will only get called by a better hand. Villains line does not look like kq/qj or anything you can get value out of.
This fold is super easy.
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:32 AM
MrDrunkie MrDrunkie is offline
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Default Re: NL25 - TPTK, Paried Turn

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I do not like the river bet.

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You would c/c or c/f the river?
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Old 06-14-2007, 07:54 AM
danicalifornia danicalifornia is offline
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Default Re: NL25 - TPTK, Paried Turn

Preflop and flop is good. I would bet more on the turn though. River is dependant on betsize and read but if ur villain is very aggro I would tend to call since all the draws missed. If he is somewhat standard I would c/f the river to any resonble sized bet
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Old 06-14-2007, 08:23 AM
ama0330 ama0330 is offline
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Default Re: NL25 - TPTK, Paried Turn

With no reads, I think that we have to assume that if villain has a Queen here, its a) suited, and b) higher than like Q9. So assuming a flop call range of Q9s+ as well as a bunch of 8's and T's, as well as all the hands which beat you like sets, 2pr and overpairs, I have you behind on the turn given that the ten has hit. The only hands you beat are smaller queens (other than QT) and given preflop and no reads I think its a minor part of his range.

So I check the turn and cc the river, I dont feel comfortable playing three streets with this hand.
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