easy fold KK on turn?

checkit888 · #1 06-13-2007, 02:52 PM

$15/$30 Party

I'm on the BB with KK
MP raises, SB calls, I 3bet. everyone calls.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, Ad, Qc ]

SB checks, I bet, Villain raises. SB fold, I call.

** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]

I check, villian bets. Fold, or call?

Neko · #2 06-13-2007, 03:30 PM

This is pretty villain dependent but absent a read, I am taking this to sd most of the time.

Scary_Tiger · #3 06-13-2007, 03:34 PM

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This is pretty villain dependent but absent a read, I am taking this to sd most of the time.

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mjkidd · #4 06-13-2007, 05:11 PM

The first 5 times he does this to me, I'll call down and make a note. If he has an ace all six times, I'll start folding occasionally.

ssmallz · #5 06-13-2007, 05:25 PM

I'll usually toss it here absent of a read. Put a FD on a the board and I'm calling down. I just hate calling down w/2 outs and getting value bet by Ax, makes me feel like a total fish. What hands can you guys put him that he raises the flop here? If he had any common sense he'd have to have at least Ax or better

Neko · #6 06-13-2007, 06:21 PM

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What hands can you guys put him that he raises the flop here?

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Any A, any Q, any 2, any PP or air [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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If he had any common sense....

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From my somewhat limited experience, it would be a serious mistake to assume a random party player has an iota of common sense.

checkit888 · #7 06-13-2007, 10:45 PM

interesting answer. im just trying to be less of a showdown monkey, so I mucked it on the turn.

How could I have played this differently? Donk the turn?

DrewOnTilt · #8 06-13-2007, 10:53 PM

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interesting answer. im just trying to be less of a showdown monkey, so I mucked it on the turn.

How could I have played this differently? Donk the turn?

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Donking the turn has no value. Worse hands probably fold, good Aces raise you, weaker aces might slow down and just call down.

gemmer · #9 06-14-2007, 10:15 AM

Calldown vs most opponents.

checkit888 · #10 06-14-2007, 10:28 AM

assuming the Q wasn't on the flop. Would you call down with 2nd pair? (say you had pocket (88-KK)?

If villain bets again on the river, would it then be an easy fold?

should I have reraised the flop, and check the river?