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Old 06-12-2007, 05:54 PM
ahnuld ahnuld is offline
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yeah i think that was you. you were chillin with FWF before the event right?

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yeah. were you the kid that CRed my cbet when I reraised pre and then folded right before the break?
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Old 06-12-2007, 06:07 PM
sethypooh21 sethypooh21 is offline
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All silly arguments about EV of running it twice aside, you need to realize you could have avoided this whole situation by asking for a new setup prior to this hand.

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Spectacular thread, but this wins.


(Neutral EV, LDO, btw.
Just gonna call it a 75/25 for easy math
Run once
wins: .75 * 15000 = $11,250
loss: .25 * 0

Run twice:

W-W: .5625 X 15000 = $8437.50
W-L: .1875 X 7500 = $1406.25
L-W: .1875 X 7500 = $1406.25
L-L: .0625 X 0

both total EV = $11,250, so it depends on which distrubution you prefer. Playing live with limited access to additional cash probably makes the reduction of the likelihood of busto from 25% to 6.25% worthwhile)
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Old 06-12-2007, 06:10 PM
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yeah i think that was you. you were chillin with FWF before the event right?

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yeah. were you the kid that CRed my cbet when I reraised pre and then folded right before the break?

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nah i was on the other side of the walkway, at the table with jason lester if you saw him
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Old 06-12-2007, 06:10 PM
Spechel EDD Spechel EDD is offline
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brb gonna run this thing 13 times
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Old 06-12-2007, 06:19 PM
Overseer55 Overseer55 is offline
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I am amazed at the number of people that cannot get this simple concept. If anyone thinks that the EV of the two hands are different, consider a scenario where the dealer switches the 2nd card (1st turn) and 4th card (1st river) with the 6th card (2nd turn) and 8th card (2nd river).

How can the EV of the 6th & 8th card being the turn/river be any different than the 2nd & 4th card being the turn/river?

The only way that the situation would be not EV neutral is if a player had the right to decide whether another "run" was conducted based on the outcome of the 1st trial.
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Old 06-13-2007, 04:44 AM
Herrigel Herrigel is offline
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it's obv. neutral ev and this is about the funniest thread in a while.

and I thought I suck at Poker...
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:56 AM
MaxCaliber MaxCaliber is offline
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Is it possible in a casino to say that we run it for the full deck (theoretically)?
Than it would mean we divide the money based on EV right there, so no variance. I would like such a solution in such a situation.
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Old 06-13-2007, 09:27 AM
Gildwulf Gildwulf is offline
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ok so I ran this thread 5 times and it still +Funny
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Old 06-13-2007, 09:41 AM
ExaMeter ExaMeter is offline
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Default Re: ahnuld loses his biggest pot, live

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All silly arguments about EV of running it twice aside, you need to realize you could have avoided this whole situation by asking for a new setup prior to this hand.

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Spectacular thread, but this wins.


(Neutral EV, LDO, btw.
Just gonna call it a 75/25 for easy math
Run once
wins: .75 * 15000 = $11,250
loss: .25 * 0

Run twice:

W-W: .5625 X 15000 = $8437.50
W-L: .1875 X 7500 = $1406.25
L-W: .1875 X 7500 = $1406.25
L-L: .0625 X 0

both total EV = $11,250, so it depends on which distrubution you prefer. Playing live with limited access to additional cash probably makes the reduction of the likelihood of busto from 25% to 6.25% worthwhile)

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nh
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Old 06-13-2007, 05:20 PM
kemystery kemystery is offline
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Default Re: ahnuld loses his biggest pot, live

this thread belongs in the Pocket Fives hall of fame
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