big draw rr pot

reup · #1 06-13-2007, 05:01 AM

rr'ing villian is upay4mycondoms, good reg, other villain is zcooke, tagfish. i'm tag

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $246.95
BB: $260.60
Hero (UTG): $910.40
MP: $175.75
CO: $198.85
BTN: $434.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
Hero raises to $7.00, MP calls $7.00, CO folds, BTN raises to $31.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $24.00, MP calls $24.00

Flop: ($96) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players) Hero ... bet, c/c, c/r?

tarheeljks · #2 06-13-2007, 05:20 AM

since this is 3 way, going for a c/r sounds good

Pirelli · #3 06-13-2007, 05:24 AM

I would C/R this AI. Your equity is great against everything, but you make more if they fold to your shove.

Montezuma21 · #4 06-13-2007, 05:27 AM

GRUNCH

I know you're deep but i think your PF call is -EV.

I think i CRAI this flop. it probably blows him off AA-KK if he's good as your line looks a lot like JJ-QQ and it probably the line with the most FE. If he checks behind with AK/SD/rags it's not the end of the world as he would have folded to a flop bet anyway.

reup · #5 06-13-2007, 05:45 AM

coo, i bet, here's the turn.

(flop)Hero bets $68.00, MP folds, BTN calls $68.00

Turn: ($232) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)

Hero ...

the villain who called is the pf rr'er (upay4mycondom)

Pirelli · #6 06-13-2007, 05:50 AM

If you check, does he check behind often? I think the only thing you can do is shove if he wont check. You aren't deep enough to c/r him with any fold equity. If you are going to bet the flop, I think you have to bet it bigger.

sdfsdf · #7 06-13-2007, 05:54 AM

fold pre. he raised more than 4x and you're oop. being OOP deep really really sucks.
i would CR the flop. in a normal raised pot people are more likely to raise your flop lead with air/semibluffs/hands where they want to "find out where they're at" but this wont happen much in RR'd pots so you cant make those hands fold with a b3b. plus a CR on this flop looks very strong and you have a lot of FE. as played fire again on the turn, and fire the river too if you miss. he would've raised you on the flop with a strong hand.

reup · #8 06-13-2007, 05:57 AM

he'll prob. put in a reasonable bet if i check. after he calls he's got an overpair or tptk most likely, maybe tens, he respects my flop bet since my image is really solid.

idk if i like a shove here it's a bit of an overbet and my equity went quite a bit down against his likely holdings, i'm pretty sure he doesn't have a set.

Pirelli · #9 06-13-2007, 06:01 AM

You're right, didn't realise you were over 2 buyins deep. I would go for the check/raise, you're definitely deep enough to get him to fold TPTK or an overpair. If he calls, you've still got equity.

MT A CLIP · #10 06-13-2007, 06:02 AM

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he'll prob. put in a reasonable bet if i check. after he calls he's got an overpair or tptk most likely, maybe tens, he respects my flop bet since my image is really solid.

idk if i like a shove here it's a bit of an overbet and my equity went quite a bit down against his likely holdings, i'm pretty sure he doesn't have a set.

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problem with check raising the turn is if he does bet like you mentioned you arent giving him much FE - I lean towards bet/calling the turn strong and fold out AA/KK