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Old 06-12-2007, 03:51 AM
Dexytp22 Dexytp22 is offline
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Default 100NL QQ facing preflop allin

What do I do here?

I know arghhghgh, it just smelled so much like KK/AA.

What is your play here?

Look at the min raise meh.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $104.20
BB: $78.75
<font color="black">Hero (UTG): $194.40</font>
CO: $176.90
BTN: $116.55

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $9.00</font>, BB calls $8.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $30.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $104.20</font>, BB folds Hero ????
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:53 AM
Vince. Vince. is offline
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Default Re: 100NL QQ facing preflop allin

Any reads? I think I'd fold here, you know what they say...the fourth bet is always aces.
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:57 AM
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Default Re: 100NL QQ facing preflop allin

I don't think I'd 4-bet here readless. Tiny reraise in a non-blind-stealing situation almost always means a huge hand (unless villain is crazy).

I'm kinda leaning towards a call as played just because you've already got 30% of your stack in and AK could still very well be in villain's range. But I think you're crushed a lot.
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Old 06-12-2007, 04:17 AM
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Default Re: 100NL QQ facing preflop allin

Think I fold here. I have lost to many dineros, thinking he might have AK. Almost everytime they show AA or KK here.
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Old 06-12-2007, 04:20 AM
Dexytp22 Dexytp22 is offline
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Default Re: 100NL QQ facing preflop allin

Basically no reads, first pot played with this guy, like 6th orbit at the table.
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Old 06-12-2007, 04:41 AM
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Default Re: 100NL QQ facing preflop allin

i stoved this scenario a while back and i think a call is breakeven once you 4bet if all he has is ak/aa/kk.
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Old 06-12-2007, 08:03 AM
Pirelli Pirelli is offline
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Default Re: 100NL QQ facing preflop allin

Just call and take a flop. It really sucks that BB called too, but you're going to have to let him in. Raising again loses you a lot of equity, because you get jammed on by AA/KK and can't profitably call a 5-bet.

You aren't in a steal position either, so he has no reason to think you're 4-betting light.
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Old 06-12-2007, 08:07 AM
Montezuma21 Montezuma21 is offline
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Default Re: 100NL QQ facing preflop allin

i think the four-bet is fine, especially with BB in the pot a lot of villains do this with any hand they're willing to play in order to gain the initiative and increase their FE on the flop, and you can't let him draw for free. It's also important for metagame as he'll be a lot less likely to do it from now on.

fold to the 5bet.
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Old 06-12-2007, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: 100NL QQ facing preflop allin

Don't 4-bet if you are going to fold to an all-in.
You are better off 4-betting with J4o if you will do this since your hand basically is becoming a pure bluff.
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Old 06-12-2007, 08:49 AM
Montezuma21 Montezuma21 is offline
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Default Re: 100NL QQ facing preflop allin

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Don't 4-bet if you are going to fold to an all-in.
You are better off 4-betting with J4o if you will do this since your hand basically is becoming a pure bluff.

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I disagree. i think given the small size of the 4bet villain very often flat calls here with JJ-TT and AK, so we're not bluffing but rather protecting our hand/raising for value. When he pushes we pretty much know we're toast.
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