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Old 06-12-2007, 12:05 AM
yimc17 yimc17 is offline
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Default 25NL getting the most value

I really hate my turn check-raise. I am not sure about the way to extract the most value here out of position. What do you guys think about leading the flop here. That turn check-raise is just making any hand but a 5 and pocket 10s fold. any help appreciated
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($8)
Button ($56.75)
SB ($23.95)
Hero ($47.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG (poster) raises to $0.75</font>, Button calls $0.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($2.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $1</font>, Button calls $1, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($5.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $11</font>
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:07 AM
wslee00 wslee00 is offline
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Default Re: 25NL getting the most value

that's a very dry board - so I can see a call on the flop. But I'd definitely lead the turn for most value unless you really want to put one of them on a 5 (dont' know how likely that is though)
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:49 AM
vixticator vixticator is offline
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Default Re: 25NL getting the most value

This is a strange hand because you have a super-short stack that is probably going broke no matter what and a large stacked Button that I have no idea how interested also in the pot.

If you check-raise the flop, UTG will probably push, and since your hand looks like a monster I can't see button calling. Lead here and UTG probably still pushes but your hand isn't as well defined now and Button is more likely to call or raise. I like that better.
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Old 06-12-2007, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: 25NL getting the most value

i liked the way you played this. there are definitely alternate lines you can take.

c/r the flop to like $3-4 is pretty hawt too.
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Old 06-12-2007, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: 25NL getting the most value

I honestly think that any line you take will get about the same amount of value. So do whatever.
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Old 06-12-2007, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: 25NL getting the most value

Here's my favorite time to donk into the PFR.
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Old 06-12-2007, 04:53 AM
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Default Re: 25NL getting the most value

We're calling with hands like this preflop so when we hit our sets we can build BIG pots.

Checking the flop isn't building a big pot.

I realize this isn't a draw-heavy flop, but we've got to bet something. I checkraise to around $4 or $5 here just to sweeten the pot a little bit so we can get allin on a later street.
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