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Old 06-11-2007, 04:37 PM
robinmbuk robinmbuk is offline
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Default AA hand vs retard calling station and unkown

Hero (UTG $35)
Retard (CO $9)
Villian(SB $15)

Hero (A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]) rasies to $1, mp folds, retard calls, Villian calls, BB calls.

Flop (4 players, $3.5): T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Villian bets $1, BB folds, hero raises $3.5, retard calls, Villian calls.

Turn (3 players, $14): 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Villian checks, hero checks, retard shoves for $4.75, villian calls, hero??

I have no info on villian, he has only played a few hands, Retard hasnt been at the table long, so no stats. All I will say about him is he could have almost anything, and he is the type of player you NEVER fold an overpair against.

Villians flop bet makes me think a pocket pair taking a weak stab at the pot. My raise isn't latge, since I dont really need to protect my hand and this is a WA/WB situation, it doesnt need to be.

I start to get worried when villian smooth calls on the flop, although I suppose this could be JJ. I consider betting the turn but I really dont know where I stand. If villian had folded to retards turn shove itd be an easy call, but I see his call as him wanting me to call so I'll have to call the river aswell when he shoves for his remaining $7.50 or so.

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Old 06-11-2007, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: AA hand vs retard calling station and unkown

hero folds, i really don't think you ever have them both beat here..... but you can call and play river accordingly..., you do have positoin on villain, even though one of them probably has u beat.
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Old 06-11-2007, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: AA hand vs retard calling station and unkown

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but you can call and play river accordingly

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OOP is villian has me beat dont you think hes just shoving (edit: the river)?
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Old 06-11-2007, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: AA hand vs retard calling station and unkown

Looks like you're beat. I would probably fold in this situation.
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Old 06-11-2007, 05:21 PM
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Hero folds. Retard shows pocket 8s, villian K2o. River blanks, retard ships the pot, hero vomits.
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Old 06-11-2007, 09:03 PM
paulsigneruk paulsigneruk is offline
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Default Re: AA hand vs retard calling station and unkown

It could be a number of hands...but i personally think villian has got a high card with a 10!! and retard has got 2 2 making his full house...not sure if im right but when you got that kind of action amongst 3 people and as you said yourself...retard seems to be a loose / weak player...for retard to call one big bet on the flop..and make a bigger bet on the turn...it just smacks of full house!!
It can be very hard to lay down AA but with the way that betting and calling was going...i think you was well beat from the flop!!!!!!!!

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By the way...how did the hand end?
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Old 06-11-2007, 09:12 PM
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Default Re: AA hand vs retard calling station and unkown

There is no way I ever fold this. These are the situations I look for. Smaller stacks pushing weaker hands. The only hands that have you beat on the flop are 22 and Tx and the very remote T2. What are you scared of? Losing $4.75? Please don't check the turn and bet the pot!

As played re-raise all-in on villian turn bet.

BTW, what blind level? By bet size/stack size I am guessing .10/.25.
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Old 06-11-2007, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: AA hand vs retard calling station and unkown

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It could be a number of hands...and retard has got 2 2 making his full house...
Thoughts?


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22 is sooo remote. I have seen short stack villains shove A6 sooted in this situation. Not saying that is his hand, but no way I give this pot up.
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: AA hand vs retard calling station and unkown

Do a pot sized raise on the flop (maybe $5.50). I don't check the turn, I bet pot size which puts them both all in as they are short stacked.
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