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Old 06-11-2007, 05:43 PM
Isura Isura is offline
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You can probably make is 70-75 on flop and fold to a shove

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To fold out TT/JJ and get shoved on by AA/KK?

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Did you miss my disclaimer about taking that line against a GOOD player?
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Old 06-11-2007, 05:52 PM
shpanko shpanko is offline
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Default Re: I hate the bitches...

Glad to hear the hand is fairly standard. He showed KK and MHING. It just felt weird calling down 3 streets after he cold-called a 3-bet pf. I was worried that he might not fire again with TT/JJ on the river and so perhaps my river call was marginal.

He bet less than 1/2 pot on the river so he obviously is value betting something. Since I'm getting 3:1 if we give him a range of JJ+ then the call is basicaly break even ya? So maybe river call is fine.
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Old 06-11-2007, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: I hate the bitches...

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You can probably make is 70-75 on flop and fold to a shove

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To fold out TT/JJ and get shoved on by AA/KK?

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Did you miss my disclaimer about taking that line against a GOOD player?

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How is that a good line against a solid player?
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Old 06-11-2007, 06:11 PM
Weatherhead03 Weatherhead03 is offline
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Default Re: I hate the bitches...

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You can probably make is 70-75 on flop and fold to a shove

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To fold out TT/JJ and get shoved on by AA/KK?

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Did you miss my disclaimer about taking that line against a GOOD player?

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How is that a good line against a solid player?

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You're not understanding, he is saying its a bad line to take against a good player.
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Old 06-11-2007, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: I hate the bitches...

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You can probably make is 70-75 on flop and fold to a shove, but this line probably maximizes against a poor player.

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I misinterpeted this then to mean "This line is good against a bad player, but against a good player I'd make it 70-75 on flop and fold to a shove."

Still, I don't think raise/folding is good against any player here.
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