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06-11-2007, 05:45 PM
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Re: What was the Sopranos about?
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What about that scene shows that Tony got hit? I see people talking about this but it appears that they just pull it out of their ass. The war is over. Phil is dead. Who made the hit? The members only guy? What mob hit have you seen that has the gunman come in, sit down, order food, eat the food, go to the bathroom, THEN make the hit. It doesnt make any sense at all. We can rule him out. You can rule out anyone who was at the diner before Tony because no one knew he would be there. So your left with the 2 black guys, who we see for a split second looking in the display, again not the way a hit goes down, or Meadow who is clearly the next person thru the door. So who makes the hit and why?? [/ QUOTE ] Hired guns will likely make the hit regardless of any current events. Who would have authority and enough time to call off a hit on Tony after Phil's dead? And for mob hits where the person ordered food etc beforehand, Michael Corleone comes to mind in a huge way... As for no one knowing who would be there: i think A LOT of people knew they would be there. Lets see, the family had planned on going there earlier in the afternoon (they made a point of showing Carmella telling Tony earlier), and they ALL came separately. AJ would probably tell just about anyone who asked cause he's an idiot, Meadow might let something slip to her man thinking its harmless, who in turn might have done the same, and Carmella could have told any of her lady friends. The fact that the war was over makes it even more likely that they let something slip. 
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06-11-2007, 06:11 PM
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Re: What was the Sopranos about?
The ending is obviously there to be interpreted many ways.
Those saying a hit is impossible because nobody knew Tony would be there are making a mistake. To illustrate, think of what Phil Leotardo must have been thinking just before his death. Nobody, not even his closest allies, knew where he was hiding. He made a trip to a gas station, presumably for just a couple minutes, to make a phone call. How the hell could anybody know he was going to be there? Information sometimes stumbles into peoples hands at opportune times. That's how Tony's men found Phil. If somebody wanted to take Tony out, it's very easy to accept that somebody got good information on him without Tony (or us viewers) having any clue that has occured. Did Tony have a recorded FBI conversation during this episode? As for who wanted Tony killed, New York is still an option whether it's the new boss (Benny?) or an angry ally of the deceased Phil. Even if it's not New York, Tony is always at risk from somebody he doesn't suspect.
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06-11-2007, 06:33 PM
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Re: What was the Sopranos about?
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Did the scene where Tony and Carm are talking to AJ's therapist and Tony goes off about his mom seem really weird to anyone else? [/ QUOTE ] it sounded like Tony was going off a script, because he was.
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06-11-2007, 06:34 PM
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Re: What was the Sopranos about?
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Did the scene where Tony and Carm are talking to AJ's therapist and Tony goes off about his mom seem really weird to anyone else? [/ QUOTE ] I thought this was like Tony "showing off" his psychology knowledge. Maybe being manipulative and trying to get the therapist on his side since he lost Melfi.
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06-11-2007, 06:37 PM
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Re: What was the Sopranos about?
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[ QUOTE ] Did the scene where Tony and Carm are talking to AJ's therapist and Tony goes off about his mom seem really weird to anyone else? [/ QUOTE ] I thought this was like Tony "showing off" his psychology knowledge. Maybe being manipulative and trying to get the therapist on his side since he lost Melfi. [/ QUOTE ] I think it confirms melfi's studies that the conman will just use therapy to further and better his criminal activity, and was just trying to leverage some more info from the new therapist.
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06-11-2007, 07:01 PM
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Re: What was the Sopranos about?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Did the scene where Tony and Carm are talking to AJ's therapist and Tony goes off about his mom seem really weird to anyone else? [/ QUOTE ] I thought this was like Tony "showing off" his psychology knowledge. Maybe being manipulative and trying to get the therapist on his side since he lost Melfi. [/ QUOTE ] I think it confirms melfi's studies that the conman will just use therapy to further and better his criminal activity, and was just trying to leverage some more info from the new therapist. [/ QUOTE ] Even beyond that, it's the nonsense of long-term psychotherapy.
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#9
06-11-2007, 06:26 PM
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Re: What was the Sopranos about?
wow so many pretentious douchebags in one place.
the episode was fine - not great not awful. a little choppier than most other eps - it felt rushed. but journey rocks.
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06-11-2007, 05:50 PM
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Re: What was the Sopranos about?
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[ QUOTE ] What about that scene shows that Tony got hit? I see people talking about this but it appears that they just pull it out of their ass. The war is over. Phil is dead. Who made the hit? The members only guy? What mob hit have you seen that has the gunman come in, sit down, order food, eat the food, go to the bathroom, THEN make the hit. It doesnt make any sense at all. We can rule him out. You can rule out anyone who was at the diner before Tony because no one knew he would be there. So your left with the 2 black guys, who we see for a split second looking in the display, again not the way a hit goes down, or Meadow who is clearly the next person thru the door. So who makes the hit and why?? [/ QUOTE ] Hired guns will likely make the hit regardless of any current events. Who would have authority and enough time to call off a hit on Tony after Phil's dead? And for mob hits where the person ordered food etc beforehand, Michael Corleone comes to mind in a huge way... As for no one knowing who would be there: i think A LOT of people knew they would be there. Lets see, the family had planned on going there earlier in the afternoon (they made a point of showing Carmella telling Tony earlier), and they ALL came separately. AJ would probably tell just about anyone who asked cause he's an idiot, Meadow might let something slip to her man thinking its harmless, who in turn might have done the same, and Carmella could have told any of her lady friends. The fact that the war was over makes it even more likely that they let something slip. [/ QUOTE ] why is everyone forgetting that they made a truce with the new yorkers minues phil, who promptly got a cap in his ass? at the meeting the agreed to a cease fire, and when asked phils location the new york guy said he couldn't tell him but he wouldn't be missed, or something to that effect, basically saying go ahead and kill him and we can get to making money again...so what leads u to believe that they want him dead again? nobody else seemed threatened in the family after the truce, which was at least a couple of days if not more before the last scene in the diner
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