10/180 isoraise?

[Supwithbates]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t6938)
UTG (t1542)
MP1 (t5470)
MP2 (t4856)
CO (t10526)
Hero (t15217)
SB (t12125)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t1517</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>,

SB is good and aggressive. He will fold most hands if we isolate but will shove a lot if we call.
BB is a total nit, and will play top 4-5% of his hands regardless of our action for all his chips

UTG is an aggro donkey and his range is ATC here LDO

I think calling is inviting SB to raise us out of the pot, should I fold or raise, and if raise, to what?

[Borys313]

The fact SB is agro and unpredictable makes the spot a bit trickier. But I would just call, the fact its bubble and you have him covered makes SB less likely to shove. And somehow people dont like to make moves when they have to show cards afterwards, so if he goes all in A4 wasnt any good.

And a call to a good player doesnt look that weak, because thats exactly what you would do with QQ+ here

[Shocker101]

I think the Reraise all in is not a bad idea you have the chips and you don't want the SB to reraise you out of the pot. Push it and he will only be able to call you the highest range plus it sets up an image for later.

[Borys313]

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I think the Reraise all in is not a bad idea you have the chips and you don't want the SB to reraise you out of the pot. Push it and he will only be able to call you the highest range plus it sets up an image for later.

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No you are wrong that SB is going to call with only the highest range. Is he is good and agressive he will do it with 77+ AQ+ cause your move doesnt look any strong.

If blinds fold you win about 600 chips on average (with A4 you will never dominate any hand). But if SB calls you are royally [censored]. The risk-reward sucks here. Of course if SB had 5K or less you push but here its really lost of risk.

[Borys313]

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I think the Reraise all in is not a bad idea you have the chips and you don't want the SB to reraise you out of the pot. Push it and he will only be able to call you the highest range plus it sets up an image for later.

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Ok I will write it alot simplier.

You dont win almost anything by fliping with the shortie he has 1500 chips and you probably have like 55% equity vs him.

You can make some money by making the blinds fold, but open-shoving 40BB to pick up blinds is just spew and horrible when you hold trash.

Would you open-shove if it was folded to you? Of course not, so dont do it now.

[mariachiinc]

Definitely don't flat call you're inviting a squeeze and announcing your hand exactly as is... a pretty weak hand.
I don't really see the value in isolating here.. Say you raise to 4500, you're borderline commiting yourself to the pot if sb shoves and def committed if bb shoves... plus your hand sucks.. Raise all in is way to much at 400 level...
If iso works I think you're may be slightly ahead at best, but likely behind so...
Just fold.

[Crash0veride]

easy fold, let someone else handle the shorties. Don't need to risk chips whne you're most likely behind/flipping