.5/1NL facing weird river push

[MDoranD]

villain is 17/15/4 over 300 hands. We dont have any real big history and ive been playing taggy. Thoughts appreciated.


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Button ($211.60)
SB ($69.55)
BB ($27.55)
UTG ($138.70)
Hero ($233.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $9.

Flop: ($27.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $19</font>, UTG calls $19.

Turn: ($65.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($65.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $106.7 (All-In)</font>, Hero ?

Final Pot: $172.20

[loosbastard]

Your turn check looks like a whiffed AK.

KK/AA probably 4-bets pre OR C/R's the flop. I think you get shown 99-JJ here often enough to make calling good here.

[MDoranD]

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Your turn check looks like a whiffed AK.

KK/AA probably 4-bets pre OR C/R's the flop. I think you get shown 99-JJ here often enough to make calling good here.

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i would think turn check is standard against this type of villain.

My problem is i think 99 to JJ value bet if they really think i wiffed on AK.

[frankpark9]

i think vilian hit a set and was planning to c/r ai on the turn but you checked back... it looks like 44 or 22 to me

[loosbastard]

A 17/15's UTG range is probably something like all pairs and the better broadways. I'm not really worried at all about a 7 because a)he isn't opening any hand w/ a 7 UTG often and b)even if he did decide to open up a little...he probably isn't calling a 3-bet. That pretty much leaves 22/44/88+...and 22/44 is stretching it if he's solid. You guys are a little deeper though, so I guess 22/44 is certainly possible. Like I said earlier, I think KK/AA usually 4-bets pre; however, if he is trying to get tricky...he probably C/R the flop. So it's either 22/44/99-JJ. To be honest, the river shove does worry me a little bit. Kinda looks like he missed his turn C/R and just said "f#!k it I'm shoving...you can call if you want".

Tough spot. I'll be interested to see results if you did call.

[Ekos]

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i think vilian hit a set and was planning to c/r ai on the turn but you checked back... it looks like 44 or 22 to me

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set, slow-played AA/KK, 67s 87s, etc here are much more common than a "value push" from a hand you beat. it's also very unlikely that he's bluffing. fold and feel good about it, but make a note of his play for future reference.

[loosbastard]

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slow-played AA/KK, 67s 87s.

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I don't think a 17/15 is opening 67s/78s UTG...and they are almost certainly not calling a 3-bet. AA/KK is much more likely...but I think we see more aggression somewhere whether it be PF or the flop. I just don't see a 17/15/4 playing KK+ THAT slow very often.

If we're beat here...IMO it's almost always 22/44/77(which seems more and more likely the longer I think about it).

[CaseS87]

This is SO a set/quads. I fold this and sleep well.

[Bigmoney]

instafold vs this guy as played

though i probably bet the turn to get my stack in

[HobbitFeet]

Turn check is fine. As played, fold river.

Villain probably has a hand QQ+ or possibly set/quad.