200nl - KK oop, value bet the river?

pwalsh21 · #1 06-10-2007, 06:21 PM

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $276.50
BB: $89.80
UTG: $283.15
MP: $339.95
CO: $54.40
BTN: $191.55

Preflop: Hero is dealt K

K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $2.00, MP raises to $10.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to $33.00, 2 folds, MP calls $23.00

Flop: ($70) 2

Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $50.00, MP calls $50.00

Turn: ($170) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($170) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero...

Villain is a solid TAG, 19/15/2 over 180 hands. Not sure if I should bet and try to get value from TT/JJ/AQ, or check/call in case I'm behind. Thoughts? Fwiw, I was planning to c/r the turn.

luckybacon · #2 06-10-2007, 06:24 PM

i always push the turn there b/c i do it with ak a lot also. but i def think u bet/call this river

tarheeljks · #3 06-10-2007, 06:25 PM

bet like 1/2 pot. if you wanted c/r the turn, why wouldn't you lead here?

Lucky · #4 06-10-2007, 06:29 PM

for sure bet river, I like slightly less than half the pot so he can call with his 77-JJ/AQ/KQ/QJ. 70-80 looks good. You lose a slight bit of value against AQ/KQ, but make it back and more by the other calls you get.

pwalsh21 · #5 06-10-2007, 06:33 PM

Alright, in the actual hand I shoved the river. I figured shoving looked more like a bluff than betting something like 80-100. Is this ok?

Lucky · #6 06-10-2007, 06:50 PM

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Alright, in the actual hand I shoved the river. I figured shoving looked more like a bluff than betting something like 80-100. Is this ok?

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I dont like it if you're solid 19/15/2 types know this about each other. Neither of you are pushing AK here a lot or viewing it as bluff when the other does it. So bet something smaller. He'll know he's beaten, but call.