Tough spot with QQ

Alexos · #1 06-09-2007, 03:10 AM

Both villains are solid regs, both run like 24/18/4
We havnt played big pots before, and Ive been playing straightforward/tight.

The only read I have is that button loves to RR in position, so we can assume a wider range here. Although I'm pretty sure he does have a reasonable hand to bet this flop.

Whats the best play to maximize value on the turn? And why?

Thx for replies

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $622.35
Hero (BB): $608.60
UTG: $1,220.85
MP: $896.30
CO: $669.20
BTN: $1,574.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, CO raises to $21.00, BTN raises to $72.00, SB folds, Hero calls $66.00, CO calls $51.00

Flop: ($219) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $165.00, Hero ???

Mizzmazz · #2 06-09-2007, 03:25 AM

I'm not necessarily crazy about my hand in that spot, given the preflop action. I might have reraised preflop.

Anyways, I probably just call here if you're 'looking to maximize value on the turn' as you asked. Assuming Button is aggressive, I probably for a check-raise on any non-scary turn. If you shove flop, Button is folding all his re-steal hands or missed big cards like AK/AQ and calling when you're beat (JJ/99/KK/AA).

I'm more worried about CO than Button in this pot though..

Alexos · #3 06-09-2007, 01:04 PM

bump

no one? I think its an interesting spot

jfish · #4 06-09-2007, 01:05 PM

fold. all you beat from button is a complete bluff (this is possible), but youre not even closing action. button is not valuebetting AJ here.

Alexos · #5 06-09-2007, 01:27 PM

Do you prefer 4betting preflop considering my read on button?

Also, how about bet/fold on flop?

student_of_game · #6 06-09-2007, 01:56 PM

Folding is too weak in my opinion, and probably a leak if villain has a wide 3-betting range pre-flop. That said, I also don't think you should raise as with these stack sizes, you are basically going all in and no worse hands will call. I prefer calling the flop since you give the impression that you are trying to keep the pot small and are a little worried. Also, you have the cut-off behind left to act, so raising is risky. Your play may induce a bluff from a worse hand on the turn. If he has a better hand, I don't think there is much you can do here.

Get_better_Baris · #7 06-09-2007, 02:01 PM

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fold. all you beat from button is a complete bluff (this is possible), but youre not even closing action. button is not valuebetting AJ here.

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i dont think i can fold for just 1 bet here. i at least call.