A Severe Penalty - This hardly seems a fair outcome.

[RR]

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but we can't make exceptions to the rules.

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Actually by rule the floor staff can and does on a regular basis. There isn't really enough info as to whether or not an excpetion should be made in this case.

[mdl]

So if you only have a chip and a chair, can you not put it in your hand close your fingers around it and carry it to the new table

I agree that putting them in your pockets seems obvious, but saying that *all* chips must be *visible* means that if you put your hand over the top of a rack and carry them, you are making at least some of the chips not visible.

Interesting wording of the rule...

[CincyLady]

yes, but NOT putting them in your pocket or take them to the bathroom is a very BASIC rule in tournaments.

It only takes ONCE either happening to yourself, or seeing it happen to someone else, to get the point across.

I had a friend who went up and played in Blackhawk at the Gilpin (A local casino that many of us in Denver play at, that holds 4 tournaments a day) a few months back.

I went up there that day to register in the event just after the one he was in, and bumped into him.

He was the chip leader and had a boatload of chips over and above everyone else.

Well, next thing I know he's MIA and no one wants to tell me where he went.

I also work with him, and ran into him at work and asked him what happened, because he had such a monster chip lead.

Seems he's not played in many tournaments, and about halfway through the story I knew what happened to him and his chips.

He was very upset and told me, well, the break came up and it was down to the final two tables, and they were consolidating down from three.

When he went over to his new table, someone elses chips were sitting there. Not knowing what to do, instead of asking the floor what should he do, he took his racks (several of them) to the mens room with him.

When he came back, the same thing happened to him that happened to the person the OP mentioned.

The fellow the OP mentioned could of asked the floor to help him move his chips, or to get him some chip racks.

Heck, I've played in Charity events in Ohio (which is the only legal poker there) when I lived there, and it was said each and every time at the start of the event, chips go in your pocket or out of the room, and you will be disqualified.

In fact, they even repeated it when the first break was announced as well.

[JJBuffone]

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[bwiii]

I'm both a dealer and a floorman. This type of decision decides what kind of player you are. Experienced players understand this is a no-no. But, you have to use common sense. He was not angle-shooting. This is the type of player you want in every tournament. Why do you want to isolate him? In big poker tournaments, ignorance is sometime an excuse for the law. Those chips should have been in play.

[Shine]

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I'm both a dealer and a floorman. This type of decision decides what kind of player you are. Experienced players understand this is a no-no. But, you have to use common sense. He was not angle-shooting. This is the type of player you want in every tournament. Why do you want to isolate him? In big poker tournaments, ignorance is sometime an excuse for the law. Those chips should have been in play.

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[NicksDad1970]

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Just shows how bad poker players are erupting at this poor kid. Yeah he did something wrong, but if i was at the table i would let it slide if the kid was nervous and stuff.

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I'm not saying that I would say anything. I'm only saying what the rules are and that there's no way around it.

[ICallHimGamblor]

As someone said previously, the final thing they tell you when they are breaking the table is that you are not allowed to put chips in your pockets. I played event #3, got moved three times, and they told us the rule each time. It is indeed brutal, but I have no sympathy for him.

[pleasefold16]

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I thought the penalty was automatic DQ... Not chip in pocket, chip dead...

Didn't somebody get DQ'd from the main event last year for putting a chip in his pocket?

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I was a floor supervisor last year during the WSOP. The rule is the chips that are in your pocket are dead and taken out of play.
Therefore, if all of your chips are in your pocket your are" DQed".
This is a correct floor call.

[shaniac]

Not brutal, not severe, and it's a rule designed to help prevent cheating. It is 100% standard in every major tournament, and it's a rule that's made repeatedly clear at the WSOP every time a table breaks.