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Old 06-07-2007, 09:06 PM
Chicos75 Chicos75 is offline
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Default $22 - Pair of Jacks on the Turn - Bubble Play

$20 + $2

Should I bet or call here?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t5300)
Button (t3590)
SB (t2175)
Hero (t2435)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
CO calls t200, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t100, Hero checks

Flop: (t600) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (t600) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

River: (t600) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets t600</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>
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Old 06-07-2007, 09:23 PM
Uniqueuponhim Uniqueuponhim is offline
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Default Re: Pair of Jacks on the Turn - Bubble Play

300-ish on the turn isn't horrible, just so you aren't letting them peel off free cards.
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Old 06-07-2007, 09:59 PM
aSsAsSiN2007 aSsAsSiN2007 is offline
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Default Re: Pair of Jacks on the Turn - Bubble Play

im semi tempted to call this riv bet, hes making it with a 7 or a bluff , if he has a bigger hand would he not make more of a value bet? also nobody has shown strenth in the hand and i disregard a K as he would have surly bet the turn
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Old 06-08-2007, 05:17 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: Pair of Jacks on the Turn - Bubble Play

never bet that turn

nh
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Old 06-08-2007, 08:34 AM
The Bubbler The Bubbler is offline
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Default Re: Pair of Jacks on the Turn - Bubble Play

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never bet that turn

nh

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It certainly looks like your ahead on the turn most of the time. Would it be so bad to put it to the test by betting?
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Old 06-08-2007, 08:37 AM
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Default Re: Pair of Jacks on the Turn - Bubble Play

People please look at the notice Durron posted the other day. Put the buyin in the title. This is now in 2 stickies, do it! Ok, I'll edit your title though. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


Anyway, I wouldn't hate betting the turn and as played I like the fold.
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Old 06-08-2007, 08:51 AM
ger664 ger664 is offline
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Default Re: $22 - Pair of Jacks on the Turn - Bubble Play

Small kicker would prevent me from betting the turn.
You could block bet the river for t200.
As Played I think that you are not ahead here often enough to make a pot sized call profitable on the river.
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Old 06-08-2007, 09:17 AM
Parvex Parvex is offline
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Default Re: $22 - Pair of Jacks on the Turn - Bubble Play

I play it exactly the same way.
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Old 06-08-2007, 09:40 AM
Toni Cogin Toni Cogin is offline
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Default Re: $22 - Pair of Jacks on the Turn - Bubble Play

bet
the
turn
omg

reasons:

-you hold a jack, so it's unlikely anyone else has a jack
-you can still charge draws
-it's very unlikely someone is slowplaying here, considering board setup (55/K9 are only monsters possible)
-toppair hands will have bet the flop almost always (unless you have specific reads)
-it's very unlikely someone will make a big move this close to the money

bet 350, if called you obviously don't bet the river and you re-evaluate there if he bets. If raised you obviously fold even if it's a [censored] minraise.

as played: fold river -&gt; every draw got there


Bottom line:
You do not wish to get value out of a jack on that turn (unless vs draws) but you want to take the pot down as it's a reasonable pot and you will take it down a lot of the time because of the reasons I gave above.
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