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#13
06-07-2007, 07:54 PM
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Re: NL400 - dirty spot in RR pot
You can't play the hand this weak and then fold to the river bet w/o a read. Your hand looks more like QQ/TT than what you have. Also, if you think a low FD is a good part of his range why on earth didn't you bet the turn?
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#14
06-07-2007, 07:57 PM
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Re: NL400 - dirty spot in RR pot
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aright sorry - i must be thinking results oriented right now or something. waste of time [/ QUOTE ] No problem, I think that some of us who've been posting here awhile feel like a turn bet is standard despite it being obvious what we might have. Are you taking into account that if villian has a set he will raise the flop often? What did villian end up having?
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#15
06-07-2007, 08:11 PM
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Re: NL400 - dirty spot in RR pot
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[ QUOTE ] aright sorry - i must be thinking results oriented right now or something. waste of time [/ QUOTE ] No problem, I think that some of us who've been posting here awhile feel like a turn bet is standard despite it being obvious what we might have. Are you taking into account that if villian has a set he will raise the flop often? What did villian end up having? [/ QUOTE ] I think the common flaw in my game is that when I 3bet and get called, I put villain on a very tight range, meaning no larger than TT+/AQs+ if I have not been getting out of line. I do this because I play at 19/15 which is pretty tight. I do widen the range when I have been squeezing/3b the button frequently, but I hadn't in this hand. This must simply be just horrible on my part. To answer your question, he showed JJ
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#16
06-07-2007, 08:15 PM
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Re: NL400 - dirty spot in RR pot
From villian's perspective I think he really should have raised the flop. It's going to be real tough for hero to get away from AK because villian's range could include some combo draws.
Due to the increased frequency of 3 betting in the games lately you need to adjust ranges against certain opponents. Don't get carried away though with it.
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#18
06-07-2007, 08:25 PM
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Re: NL400 - dirty spot in RR pot
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I guess be thankful that he didn't bet turn and it was possible for you to avoid getting stacked. [/ QUOTE ] he only had 40 behind after his river bet anyway. Ok, but can u guys offer a little advice? Lets say you just sit down in a game, playing at around 19/15 or so and are playing super standard. You've squeezed maybe once or twiced but nothing out of line. Then a hand comes where CO (lets say 22/18 or w/e) opens and you repop from the BB and CO calls. What range do you put CO on? Answers would be greatly appreciated.
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#19
06-07-2007, 08:28 PM
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Re: NL400 - dirty spot in RR pot
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[ QUOTE ] I guess be thankful that he didn't bet turn and it was possible for you to avoid getting stacked. [/ QUOTE ] he only had 40 behind after his river bet anyway. Ok, but can u guys offer a little advice? Lets say you just sit down in a game, playing at around 19/15 or so and are playing super standard. You've squeezed maybe once or twiced but nothing out of line. Then a hand comes where CO (lets say 22/18 or w/e) opens and you repop from the BB and CO calls. What range do you put CO on? Answers would be greatly appreciated. [/ QUOTE ] A given 22/18 could have a vastly different range for calling 3 bets than another 22/18. It would be easier to give you a better estimate of ranges if you tell us how much villian raisies and how much hero reraises in your example.
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