Too Aggressive

JaneTheHot · #1 06-07-2007, 04:34 PM

Enemy is passive-passive

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 folds, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, CO calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB

Xhad · #2 06-07-2007, 04:39 PM

Depends on how passive is passive and how many worse Ts he limps pf but this is probably fine. Only thing that's even debatable is the flop 3bet.

JaneTheHot · #3 06-07-2007, 04:44 PM

that is what I am asking, should I've 3 betted or went to call mode?

Xhad · #4 06-07-2007, 04:46 PM

With no read I think as played is fine. With a passive read I'd like to know how loose he is; can he have T7s here? T5s?

ProfessorBen · #5 06-07-2007, 04:57 PM

This is fine on this board. 2-pairs for Villain on the flop is really rare here.
Here are my factors for whether or not I would choose to 3-bet or not:

1. I'm more likely to 3-bet if there are legitimate flush/straight draws in case he may be C/R that.
2. The board is less likely to have legitimate 2 pair combinations, as in I'm more likely to 3-bet Q43 than QJ7.
3. My kicker, duh.
4. If I am OUT OF POSITION and there is a draw on the board. This is minor, but especially true if I'm in a game where players are willing to raise for a freecard. Basically, I want to avoid bet/calling the flop and watching the turn get checked through. Usually, my line to counter frequent freecard takers is to bet/fold the turn, but I can't do so here, so I would be more likely to 3-bet. Once I have 3-bet and I get raised on the turn, I can usually fold.

In this case the passivity of the opponent really works against us. However, I am still betting because his most likely holdings are 99-55 and smaller tens when he raises us.

JaneTheHot · #6 06-07-2007, 05:00 PM

Sounds solid!

Bluffoon · #7 06-07-2007, 05:12 PM

I like your line better than a passive one because I dont like giving my opponent the free card option with a hand as vulnerable as this.

It only costs you an extra half bet and if you get raised on the turn or river by a truly passive opponent then you can dump it pretty easily unless you have improved.

Frond · #8 06-07-2007, 06:30 PM

Solid Man! Looks great to me.

Xhad · #9 06-07-2007, 06:32 PM

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I like your line better than a passive one because I dont like giving my opponent the free card option with a hand as vulnerable as this.

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I'm not saying I disilke OP's line as the default, but what limps in UTG1 and then makes a FCP on this board?

Ricks · #10 06-07-2007, 06:57 PM

UTG+1 folded the flop. CO is the villain.