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Old 06-06-2007, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: R. Wexler (D-FL) to introduce legislation exempting poker from UIG

All we need is what Frist needed. A must pass bill and a powerful leader in the conference committee or majority leadership to tack it on. We can introduce these bills all we want, pass them in the house, but Kyl has votes and like- minded fucktards in the Senate with procedural stall moves to kill this. If passed alone, it could be vetoed. If it happens, it will happen like lightning. This is just good momentum, good but still only momentum.
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Old 06-06-2007, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: R. Wexler (D-FL) to introduce legislation exempting poker from UIG

There are plenty of important bills that will sail through with this attached. The key is having the speaker, which is Pelosi. At least she can take some vindictive pleasure in sticking it to Kyl with this.
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Old 06-06-2007, 08:26 PM
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All we need is what Frist needed. A must pass bill and a powerful leader in the conference committee or majority leadership to tack it on. We can introduce these bills all we want, pass them in the house, but Kyl has votes and like- minded fucktards in the Senate with procedural stall moves to kill this. If passed alone, it could be vetoed. If it happens, it will happen like lightning. This is just good momentum, good but still only momentum.

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Good momentum is a good thing. Some here think we should oppose any bill that doesn't meet 100% of what they want. We have a couple of posters here who don't believe in building momentum. They argue that we should oppose IGREA, then sit back and wait for some politician to stick his neck out for us. Well, you and I know it doesn't work that way. Our opposition to UIGEA helped us get IGREA. Our support of IGREA got us this poker bill. Our support for the poker bill will get us further opportunities, or our victory. We just have to keep chipping away. At worst, we keep our opponents on the defensive.

Good job team!! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 06-06-2007, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: R. Wexler (D-FL) to introduce legislation exempting poker from UIG

There is a definite shift in momentum, and any half wit can see that it has been caused by red blooded americans rallying and letting their voices be heard. Does anyone really think all of this is happeing because these people realize they made a mistake? Hell no. It is happening because the poker lobby (us) is crying out in unison.

Now is not the time to get comlacet. If anything we need to double our efforts.

We just picked up some outs on the turn. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-06-2007, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: R. Wexler (D-FL) to introduce legislation exempting poker from UIG

They realize they made a mistake. Their mistake was [censored] with the wrong Americans!
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Old 06-06-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: R. Wexler (D-FL) to introduce legislation exempting poker from UIG

id much rather see poker get an exemption that see online slots still be legal, i wish theyd get rid of all slots and BS, cause i hate the way online casinos wont let u play BJ and poker and make u play slots to get ur bonuses, or else make u bet 50x as much. get sick and tired of explaining to people the DIFFERNECE between poker and games thats ALL PURE LUCK. this bill would be the best thing that could happen. and im glad pokerstars and full tilt never caved in like absolute did and begin offering blackjack.
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Old 06-06-2007, 08:53 PM
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There is a definite shift in momentum, and any half wit can see that it has been caused by red blooded americans rallying and letting their voices be heard. Does anyone really think all of this is happeing because these people realize they made a mistake? Hell no. It is happening because the poker lobby (us) is crying out in unison.

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Spot on, brother. Frank and Wexler aren't introducing legislation out of the goodness of their hearts.
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Old 06-06-2007, 09:00 PM
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There is a definite shift in momentum, and any half wit can see that it has been caused by red blooded americans rallying and letting their voices be heard. Does anyone really think all of this is happeing because these people realize they made a mistake? Hell no. It is happening because the poker lobby (us) is crying out in unison.

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Spot on, brother. Frank and Wexler aren't introducing legislation out of the goodness of their hearts.

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Frank was with us before there was an "us". With our efforts, we're making other politicians realize they should be with us as well. Let's keep it up.
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Old 06-06-2007, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: R. Wexler (D-FL) to introduce legislation exempting poker from UIG

There are indeed a lot of things going on to provide some positive momentum. And as noted above, this is because of the vocal efforts of poker players, as well as external issues like the WTO issue and the distate of many in Europe for prosecutions of Euro companies in the gaming industry.

However we should note that as far as domestic legislation goes, all these efforts so far have been in the house. And even were something positive like Rep. Frank's or Rep. Weixler's bills to pass in a stand alone fashion there, they would face the inevitable hold in the senate from Kyl and others and be blocked. Thus what is needed is not only the language of some bill or other favorable to our cause to be fashioned, but then for that to be passed in the very same manner as the UIGEA passed, i.e. by being attached in conference committee to must pass legislation. Long shot as that is, it is our only shot this year.

So right now, Reps Frank and Weixler, the PPA and all of us poker players, need to be focusing as well on the chairmen of various senate committees, and cultivating one or more to be willing to pass this in that manner. And naturally that means that in addition to Speaker Pelosi, Sen. Reid also has to be so willing to go along, especially Reid. And for that to happen, he will definitely have to be able to see that domestic gaming companies are given a piece of the pie.

There are a lot of hurdles on the track, and we're barely out of the starting gate.
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Old 06-06-2007, 09:24 PM
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Yes R Wexler!

I have sent emails to my Sens and Reps supporting this action.

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