NL10 AJ Turn Play?

machine · #1 06-06-2007, 05:48 PM

villan is 19.4/6/2 over 67 hands

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $2.35
UTG+1: $4.25
MP1: $13.05
hero: $10.55
MP3: $9.95
CO: $9.95
Button: $23.50
SB: $3.05
BB: $10.20

Pre-flop: (9 players) hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.4, hero calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1.75, 4 players)
MP1 bets $1.2, hero calls, 2 folds.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4.15, 2 players)
MP1 bets $2.5, hero?

jhill3535 · #2 06-06-2007, 06:13 PM

I would rather raise the flop ~$3 then to call the turn.

I would fold this preflop against this opponent, I don't like calling with AJ, I would 3-bet a LAG, open raise limpers or fold against most TAGs.

Isifhan · #3 06-06-2007, 06:21 PM

I think I would have raised flop. As played call and re-evaluate on river. There's a good chance you are ahead here but I don't think I like raising the turn.

jhill3535 · #4 06-06-2007, 06:28 PM

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I think I would have raised flop. As played call and re-evaluate on river. There's a good chance you are ahead here but I don't think I like raising the turn.

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I definately don't like raising the turn, but you shouldn't be calling the turn bet to re-evaluate on the river. If you call the turn you have to call a reasonable bet on the river too. If you are going to call down, then stick to your read and call down, don't make a couple calls and then fold, that is total spew and worse than calling down a losing hand IMO.

Isifhan · #5 06-06-2007, 08:21 PM

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I think I would have raised flop. As played call and re-evaluate on river. There's a good chance you are ahead here but I don't think I like raising the turn.

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I definately don't like raising the turn, but you shouldn't be calling the turn bet to re-evaluate on the river. If you call the turn you have to call a reasonable bet on the river too. If you are going to call down, then stick to your read and call down, don't make a couple calls and then fold, that is total spew and worse than calling down a losing hand IMO.

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I would be calling down pretty much no matter what. But if a K or a Q fell on the river and I was bet into I'd have a decision to make I think. But yes generally I would be calling a reasonable bet on the river.

Roger Mainfield · #6 06-06-2007, 08:22 PM

Easy fold preflop. What do you beat that raises in Middle position with a 6% pfr? As played fold turn. He has Aces/Kings/Queens here every single time.

Raise flop? No, your not bluffing anything out, the board isn't very dangerous,

0% you are ahead, you beat AK that is bluffing both streets, and thats the only hand you beat, a bet here is a bluff, there is no hand within his range that is gonna call a bet and that you beat.

Isifhan · #7 06-06-2007, 08:36 PM

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Easy fold preflop. What do you beat that raises in Middle position with a 6% pfr? As played fold turn. He has Aces/Kings/Queens here every single time.

Raise flop? No, your not bluffing anything out, the board isn't very dangerous,

0% you are ahead, you beat AK that is bluffing both streets, and thats the only hand you beat, a bet here is a bluff, there is no hand within his range that is gonna call a bet and that you beat.

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KJs, QJs doesn't raise preflop? Even at 6%?

Klompy · #8 06-06-2007, 08:44 PM

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KJs, QJs doesn't raise preflop? Even at 6%?

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I don't raise these in mp1 and my raise % is like 9

Roger Mainfield · #9 06-06-2007, 08:45 PM

Not 6%, and he is in medium position. I think AA,KK,QQ,JJ,AKs is like 4.5%(not sure on that) and in middle position he will still be fairly tight. KJs and QJs are terrible hands too, I run like 19/12 and those are folds to me in his position. They are easily dominated and your position sucks.

jhill3535 · #10 06-06-2007, 08:46 PM

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Easy fold preflop. What do you beat that raises in Middle position with a 6% pfr? As played fold turn. He has Aces/Kings/Queens here every single time.

Raise flop? No, your not bluffing anything out, the board isn't very dangerous,

0% you are ahead, you beat AK that is bluffing both streets, and thats the only hand you beat, a bet here is a bluff, there is no hand within his range that is gonna call a bet and that you beat.

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KJs, QJs doesn't raise preflop? Even at 6%?

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6% is probably like 4% in MP. Range on 4% is 99+,AQs+,AKo.

The full 6% is 88+,AJs+,KQs,AQo+