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Old 06-06-2007, 01:26 PM
MikeMcQ1 MikeMcQ1 is offline
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Default (119) Overcalling with junk

Both are 6man STTs, 2 spots pay 65/35.

Hand 1: Shorty has 20/10 numbers but made a really bad call, otherwise seems decent.
Caller is a decent profitable regular.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t1624)
Button (t620)
SB (t3195)
Hero (t3561)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Button raises to t620 (All-in)</font>, SB calls t520, Hero...



Hand 2: different game. Shorty was slightly LAG but tightened up a lot on the bubble. Caller is a sharkscope leaderboard type.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Button (t1030)
SB (t3190)
Hero (t4780)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Button raises to t1030 (All-in)</font>, SB calls t930, Hero...
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: (119) Overcalling with junk

i fold both
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:36 PM
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Default Re: (119) Overcalling with junk

F O L D.
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: (119) Overcalling with junk

W/o going to SNG Wiz, I fold #1 - not worth it with that hand.

I call #2. It's the bubble. You're happy with either you or SB winning, and really happy if you win.
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: (119) Overcalling with junk

but no point giving sb more chips than he`ll probably get from the button pushing atc, but it would suck to let the button double up, but then again you tripple him up if you call and he wins, i let the sb take a shot at him and then they are both shortys to our stack
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: (119) Overcalling with junk

They're both real close but I like Suzzer's answers.
#1: great odds but horrible hand. I think I fold but calling sure isn't bad.
#2: good odds plus better chance to end the bubble.
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Old 06-06-2007, 02:18 PM
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I like those thoughts, but something I considered is by folding Hand 2, I'm not terribly concerned about doubling up the Button, as I will now have double the chips as *both* opponents and I can still...what are the kids calling it...PWN.
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Old 06-06-2007, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: (119) Overcalling with junk

You get a chance to end a 6-man bubble you take it. Trust me. If their stacks were half their size you might consider messing around. But at 4k chips, one little slip up or a couple blind steals gone bad and you're right back fighting not to bubble yourself.

Guys who play 6-mans like to gamble. Generally you can't just own them on the bubble like some of the $60s nits. They will call.
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Old 06-06-2007, 02:43 PM
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I like those thoughts, but something I considered is by folding Hand 2, I'm not terribly concerned about doubling up the Button, as I will now have double the chips as *both* opponents and I can still...what are the kids calling it...PWN.

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Nice. I like folding a lot now thinking about the stack setup that will be left.
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