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Old 06-05-2007, 08:14 PM
jessyj07 jessyj07 is offline
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Default Having to hit to win

Villain in the hand is 23/7 and aggressive postflop. I really don't think that I have the best hand right now. My reasoning for calling on the flop was that I have been pretty active at this table since I had AA cracked by KK and it looked like I was tilting despite getting good cards and never showing down...so I was hoping he'd put me on the flush draw and he had a hand like JJ/TT but does he ever have those here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($6.95)
UTG ($52)
MP ($65.60)
CO ($16.30)
Hero ($28.35)
SB ($22.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, SB calls $1.15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $1.

Flop: ($4) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $8</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $5.25.

Turn: ($20) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $13.65 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $13.65.
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Old 06-05-2007, 08:23 PM
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Default Re: Having to hit to win

You know he is going to be shoving any non-h turn so why call the flop raise?
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Old 06-05-2007, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: Having to hit to win

super easy flop shove
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Old 06-05-2007, 08:29 PM
jessyj07 jessyj07 is offline
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Default Re: Having to hit to win

so he doesn't fold anywhere...terrible logic I think.
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Old 06-05-2007, 08:33 PM
Ikaika Ikaika is offline
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Default Re: Having to hit to win

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super easy flop shove

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Old 06-05-2007, 08:42 PM
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Jessy, just shove the flop
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Old 06-05-2007, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: Having to hit to win

thank you people I &lt;3 u all. I ended up sucking out with a Q on the river against his AK. I guess I really hate getting AI knowing I'm a slight dog [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].
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Old 06-05-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: Having to hit to win

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I really don't think that I have the best hand right now.

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If that is what you really feel than opponent should have AA (but not likely due to preflop action),44,55, or AK. I think your fold equity against that range is near zero.

Board: Kc 4h 5h

Hand 0: 41.020% { KhQh }
Hand 1: 58.980% { AA, 55-44, AKs, AKo }

I made quick calculations so I could have a mistake here: If you re-raise AI on the flop it will cost you 18.90 to win 28.40. Assuming fold equity is zero, this is about 49 cents of expected profit. Just based on this it is pretty close on the flop, but shows that worst case scenario you are still +EV by pushing.

In reality, I don't think you are always behind. There is a slight chance he is making a move on you with something like another KQ or a strong draw and you are sitting better due to fold equity and increased equity over his range.

On the turn you kill your equity versus his range if it blanks. If you are going to call an all-in on a blank turn, you absolutely have to push the flop.
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