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Old 06-05-2007, 09:02 AM
Shizzle12345 Shizzle12345 is offline
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Default AK TPTK in raised pot, good fold?

no reads I couldnt think of a hand that i had beat, and that he would pull this move on me

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<font color="black">Hero (SB): $24.75</font>
BB: $26.30
UTG: $25.35
CO: $49.20
BTN: $24.80

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, BB calls $2.25, CO calls $1.50

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($7.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $5.00</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $14.00</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $26.50
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Old 06-05-2007, 09:12 AM
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Default Re: AK TPTK in raised pot, good fold?

I would never fold this in a reraised pot at this level without reads, and btw you your reraise is to small preflop, i raise to 4 when i am oop, and 3-3.5 in position.
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Old 06-05-2007, 09:18 AM
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Default Re: AK TPTK in raised pot, good fold?

Fold is weak. You're only beat by AA, 44, KQ, QQ, KK (very unlikely). Why play preflop if you are going to raise and hit TPTK then fold? Calling is not an option as you are committed. I push here at this level.
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Old 06-05-2007, 10:02 AM
dfkdfk dfkdfk is offline
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Default Re: AK TPTK in raised pot, good fold?

I agree with everyone else unless this guy is extremely tight... if I was the CO I would be extremely worried about AK in this kind of situation. However, what zatacka suggested about your reraise is probably where your mistake is - a relatively small reraise may price me in to call with a hand like KQ just to see if I can outflop in order to stack you on your big hands. If you made that re-raise more significant I think in the long run weaker, more speculative hands would not be able to call profitably.
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Old 06-05-2007, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: AK TPTK in raised pot, good fold?

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Fold is weak. You're only beat by AA, 44, KQ, QQ, KK (very unlikely). Why play preflop if you are going to raise and hit TPTK then fold? Calling is not an option as you are committed. I push here at this level.

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What hands are hero ahead of? AQ? Remember that he has no reads. I think that this fold is justifiable. Hands which we are ahead of just call this flop, especially seeing as we have shown so much aggression already.

I like a bigger raise preflop too given that you are OOP, make it $3.25.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: AK TPTK in raised pot, good fold?

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Fold is weak. You're only beat by AA, 44, KQ, QQ, KK (very unlikely). Why play preflop if you are going to raise and hit TPTK then fold? Calling is not an option as you are committed. I push here at this level.

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What hands are hero ahead of? AQ? Remember that he has no reads. I think that this fold is justifiable. Hands which we are ahead of just call this flop, especially seeing as we have shown so much aggression already.

I like a bigger raise preflop too given that you are OOP, make it $3.25.

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i agree with the bigger raise, but what am i beating here? I cbet this basicly to get them fold. If the Q was a 9 or something i woulda pushed. But ur either getting stacked on this flop or you take take it down uncontested
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: AK TPTK in raised pot, good fold?

Villains will call a lot of hands preflop here especially 3way and a lot of those hands miss this board allowing you to take it down. What they DON'T do, is RAISE a lot of hands on this board. They raise a very few select hands and just about all of those hands beat you.

Villain cant raise AQ here because he would never expect you to lay down AK. Given preflop he has to fear that you have AA/KK, so he can't raise AK for value. Basically the long and short of it is that he just cant be bluffing on this board.
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: AK TPTK in raised pot, good fold?

I agree with ama. Given all the PF action (and odds) I think the chances of someone having KQ or 44 is decent. I don't see AQ rr to $14 on this flop w/o a read and you're only getting 2:1. A fold is fine with me. Just note it and remember for next time.
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