Overplaying my hand? 10/20 deep

HeheOkok · #1 06-04-2007, 02:38 PM

I really wasn't sure about the river here.
VIllain isn't very solid in my opinion. Plays like 35/25/1.7 and tends to call reraises pretty lightly in position as well as out of position, bluffraises frequently and floats a decent amount. I called him a fish earlier in the session when he was pretty shortstacked and called reraise with KQ and then called the flopbet on a 9 high board spiking a king on the turn (I had JJ). I have been raising pretty much in late position and also reraising a few times, playing around 27/22 for the session.

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $7659.88
CO: $4979.92
Button: $3980.00
SB: $2048.00
HERO: $4651.08

Pre-flop: (5 players) HERO is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $80, 3 folds, HERO calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($170, 2 players)
HERO checks, UTG bets $170, HERO raises to $555, UTG calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1280, 2 players)
HERO bets $915, UTG calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($3110, 2 players)
HERO is all-in $3121.08

Is this line OK?

flavio321 · #2 06-04-2007, 02:51 PM

i like ccalling river better here or value bet 1/3. why push river when you are only getting called by hands that beat you.

klownage · #3 06-04-2007, 02:56 PM

Worse Kx's could call here.

I prob bet 1/2 pot and call a shove.

TxRedMan · #4 06-04-2007, 04:03 PM

His hand looks like JJ or AQ to me.

I'd bet $2000 on the river.

king_of_drafts · #5 06-04-2007, 04:52 PM

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Worse Kx's could call here.

I prob bet 1/2 pot and call a shove.

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limon · #6 06-04-2007, 05:03 PM

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I really wasn't sure about the river here.
VIllain isn't very solid in my opinion. Plays like 35/25/1.7 and tends to call reraises pretty lightly in position as well as out of position, bluffraises frequently and floats a decent amount. I called him a fish earlier in the session when he was pretty shortstacked and called reraise with KQ and then called the flopbet on a 9 high board spiking a king on the turn (I had JJ). I have been raising pretty much in late position and also reraising a few times, playing around 27/22 for the session.

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $7659.88
CO: $4979.92
Button: $3980.00
SB: $2048.00
HERO: $4651.08

Pre-flop: (5 players) HERO is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $80, 3 folds, HERO calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($170, 2 players)
HERO checks, UTG bets $170, HERO raises to $555, UTG calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1280, 2 players)
HERO bets $915, UTG calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($3110, 2 players)
HERO is all-in $3121.08

Is this line OK?

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probably sucked to see AsQs. i really cant put him on a k. i check call the riv. and hope to see AA.

iRock · #7 06-04-2007, 05:04 PM

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Worse Kx's could call here.

I prob bet 1/2 pot and call a shove.

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betting half the pot here and then calling a shove is worse than open shoving imo.

I think if you open shove, you can kind of rep missed spades mayyyybe.

if you bet, then call a shove, what is he shoving over you with that you beat? if hes gonna shove a draw, hed do it much earlier than here. If you bet and he shoves, i think this is a fold against most standard 10/20 opponents.

i would rather take a check/call line here. if he had a worse k, i think he raises the flop or turn to make sure you dont "draw out on him" where as i can see him having KQ, Q's full or J10 and taking this line more often than a worse k. If you check and he bets i still prob call, but i think its much closer than at first glance.

HeheOkok · #8 06-04-2007, 07:00 PM

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Worse Kx's could call here.

I prob bet 1/2 pot and call a shove.

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betting half the pot here and then calling a shove is worse than open shoving imo.

I think if you open shove, you can kind of rep missed spades mayyyybe.

if you bet, then call a shove, what is he shoving over you with that you beat? if hes gonna shove a draw, hed do it much earlier than here. If you bet and he shoves, i think this is a fold against most standard 10/20 opponents.

i would rather take a check/call line here. if he had a worse k, i think he raises the flop or turn to make sure you dont "draw out on him" where as i can see him having KQ, Q's full or J10 and taking this line more often than a worse k. If you check and he bets i still prob call, but i think its much closer than at first glance.

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A lot of good points. As for check calling the river, does he ever bet anything that I can beat here? I mean, shouldn't it look like I could only have Kx, JT(long shot), complete air or a busted FD? Could he ever bluff this river? Although I think he's not very solid, I have a hard time seeing him calling the turn with a flush draw here.

I usually reraise AK obviously, but I like to mix it up and balance my game.