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Old 06-02-2007, 10:26 PM
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Default 1-2 NL live, big hand

Reads: SB is a weak tight player, BB is a strong tricky player, UTG+1 likes to take a lot of flops and does not play particularily well postflop (seen him call for all his chips with just a flush draw on the turn getting 2 to 1 pot odds) MP just sat down, My image is somewhat tight but i did recently show a bluff.

SB: $180.00
BB: $570.00
UTG+1: $220.00
MP: $200.00
Hero (CO): $655.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 33 (10 Players)
UTG+1 calls, mp raises to $12.00, Hero calls, SB calls BB calls UTG calls

Flop: ($60) 3 5 7, 2 spades (5 Players)
SB checks,BB bets $30.00, UTG+1 calls, MP raises to $100, Hero?
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Old 06-02-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: 1-2 NL live, big hand

fold
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Old 06-02-2007, 10:58 PM
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Default Re: 1-2 NL live, big hand

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fold

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You're not serious are you?
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:02 PM
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Default Re: 1-2 NL live, big hand

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Reads: SB is a weak tight player, BB is a strong tricky player, UTG+1 likes to take a lot of flops and does not play particularily well postflop (seen him call for all his chips with just a flush draw on the turn getting 2 to 1 pot odds) MP just sat down, My image is somewhat tight but i did recently show a bluff.

SB: $180.00
BB: $570.00
UTG+1: $220.00
MP: $200.00
Hero (CO): $655.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 33 (10 Players)
UTG+1 calls, mp raises to $12.00, Hero calls, SB calls BB calls UTG calls

Flop: ($60) 3 5 7, 2 spades (5 Players)
SB checks,BB bets $30.00, UTG+1 calls, MP raises to $100, Hero?

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i'd make it $250.
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Old 06-03-2007, 11:06 PM
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Default Re: 1-2 NL live, big hand

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i'd make it $250.

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If you make it $250 here are you doing so with the intention of calling or folding to a push from the BB?
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Old 06-03-2007, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: 1-2 NL live, big hand

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i'd make it $250.

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If you make it $250 here are you doing so with the intention of calling or folding to a push from the BB?

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obv. board is too drawy to fold a set.
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Old 06-03-2007, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: 1-2 NL live, big hand

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obv. board is too drawy to fold a set.

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You don't think given my read on the BB and the relatively deep stacks coupled with the action so far that a push by the BB indicates a made straight or a bigger set?
Just for the record I don't think there is much question about this hand if I have middle set but with bottom set I actually think it's a pretty complex hand.
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Old 06-03-2007, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: 1-2 NL live, big hand

if you don't want to make bottom set then why are you playing 33?
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Old 06-03-2007, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: 1-2 NL live, big hand

I want to make bottom set 99% of the time but when I'm deep and the other deep stack shows aggression gets called in one place and raised in another it might just be the 1% of times I fold it. I think every hand is situational and I do think there is definitely a time to fold bottom set, I'm just not sure if this is it.
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Old 06-03-2007, 11:40 PM
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Default Re: 1-2 NL live, big hand

Given the board's texture, there are too many hands he can be doing this with (i.e. A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], or some other combo draw) that makes folding here bad.
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