Low flopped flush, tonns of action

[roga]

Fold PF. As played I would fold flop.

[marvin_1935]

pf is pretty bad given stack sizes.

[corsakh]

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pf is pretty bad given stack sizes.

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Please explain why. How do you see suited gappers and how do you propose to play them.

[inspir3d]

i think this is fine preflop. i like 47s too.

as for this hand i think i might smooth call flop and call/bet turn and call/bet river depending on the action. with small flush hands i prefer play multiple streets to wait till u're quite sure u have the best hand. it reduces ur variance and disguises ur hand and extracts maximum value from weaker hands that might fold to such strong aggression on the flop.

the value from 47s comes primarily from when u hit the hands they cant see like straights/2pairs. i prefer to play the small flushes more conservatively.

[marvin_1935]

if you are 200 bbs deep w/ a caller or two in between, or your read is that UTG is likely to stack off w/ overpairs then yeah, go ahead and call. but only 125 bbs deep and NO READS, you're just not deep enough to play 47s.

you're gonna flop 2 pair 2%, trips 1.4%, boat/4 of a kind .1%

you're gonna flop a flush .9% and a FD 11%

you're gonna flop a straight .65% and a SD 5.25% (compare to a SC which flops a straight 1.3% and a SD 10.5%. 1 gappers are 1%/8% respectively)

we will flop 2 pair or better roughly 5% of the time or 1 out of 20 times. so each time we call a raise and hit we need to make 19 times the size of the raise JUST TO HAVE NEUTRAL EV, in this case $15.2. the reality of poker is we're not going to win a stack every time we flop 2 pair+. most of the time we will show aggression and take down the pot. sometimes we will lose to higher flushes or villains will have redraws and suckout.

i view suited 2 gappers as junk. i really don't play them for the above reasons. i do play SCs and suited 1 gappers to a raise when i am in position and we are deep and/or i have reads.

[jmgambler]

I Hate the PF call, if we were blinds okaaaaay kind of/sort of, I dont need to tell you the numbers.

as played I am stacking off here, "You mean, I called a raise with crap and hit my 118-1 shot and am folding?" No way, uh uh.

Hero beats him into the pot

[jmgambler]

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Although twogappers potential to hit a straight is significantly lower than the one of a SC, it makes up for it by creating weirdest double belly busters and two paires on seemingly undoordinated boards. As any other two cards its absolutely fine to play as long as you undrsetand what your are doing. For the purposes of this hand, its the same as 67s discounting one out to a straight flush draw.

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erm, no disrespect, but isn't this a little oxymoronish? You called a raise with a low suited 2 gapper (out of the blinds) by virtue of this how can you now say:

"As any other two cards its absolutely fine to play as long as you undrsetand what your are doing."

This statement can be used to qualify ANY 2 cards, out of ANY position, to ANY raise?........ sorry, I cannot agree with you here

[jessyj07]

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Fold PF. As played I would fold flop.

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[Archon_Wing]

wtf... this thread makes my head asplode.
Readless and a buyin deep I don't think you can get away from this on the flop.

Also at unl, there's really no point getting fancy. Not to mention if you're folding on a flop like that, you really shouldn't be playing that kind of hand in the first place. It's ultimately that pf choice that lands you into situations like this.

Also you're getting almost 3:1 This is Unl, don't overthink it and call.

[futuredoc85]

i cant fold here. also preflop is pretty insignificant here why are there like 5 posts about it?