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Old 06-01-2007, 06:36 AM
fatgirl_lover fatgirl_lover is offline
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Default Re: why is AIDs so widespread?

thanks for the info everyone. though some of the responses are not entirely convincing. i know if you keep playing the loterry then eventually your number will come up but still, this is a prety hard lottery to "win". people need to be having constant unprotected sex, and then the people they are having unprotected sex with a lot of them need to have AIDs.

seems like the solution is very straightforward, no anal sex with someone who has AIDs, use a condom, don't use dirty needles to inject drugs. curious, how do you guys have knowledge on this subject? definitly wasn't expecting 19 responses on this topic.
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Old 06-01-2007, 07:46 AM
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Watch it, you can't link that Phil. -Rduke55

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To everyone PMing me about the deleted link, no it's not a hate site or anti-gay site and there are no pornographic images. It's interesting but not that exciting. And no, I won't be sending it to you.

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Old 06-01-2007, 12:20 PM
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Would that really be a large effect? I know it's a common belief in those countries that sex with virgins can cure AIDS, but it can't be that common.

Another point for OP is that female risks are quite a bit greater than straight male risks.

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Old 06-01-2007, 03:35 PM
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thanks for the info everyone. though some of the responses are not entirely convincing. i know if you keep playing the loterry then eventually your number will come up but still, this is a prety hard lottery to "win". people need to be having constant unprotected sex, and then the people they are having unprotected sex with a lot of them need to have AIDs.

seems like the solution is very straightforward, no anal sex with someone who has AIDs, use a condom, don't use dirty needles to inject drugs. curious, how do you guys have knowledge on this subject? definitly wasn't expecting 19 responses on this topic.


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starsky from the tv show , his wife had aids when it first came out from a transfusion or something and they had sex for years and starsky never got aids.
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: why is AIDs so widespread?

Odds of a male contracting HIV from someone in a non-high-risk group without a condom through PVI: 1 in 5,000,000

Odds of a male contracting HIV from someone in a non-high-risk group with a condom through PVI: 1 in 50,000,000

Link to page on infection percentages

As far as the HIV epidemic in sub-Saharan Africa, environmental institutes such as the Worldwatch Institute would like to have you believe that it is largely a result of a collapsing ecosystem:

"The first region where decline is replacing progress is sub-Saharan Africa. In this region of 800 million people, life expectancy - a sentinel indicator of progress - is falling precipitously as governments overwhelmed by rapid population growth have failed to curb the spread of the virus that leads to AIDS."

2000a Worldwatch Institute, Lester Brown et al.
(eds.): State of the World 2000. New York: W. W. Norton.


However, environmental institutions often exaggerate numbers and make false claims based on incorrect statistical analysis in order to overstate their cause, hoping it will garner more attention. In actuality, the primary reasons for the widespread AIDS epidemic in sub-Saharan Africa are political and social factors:

"The high levels of AIDS arise from the failure of African political and religious leader to recognize social and sexual reality. The means for maintaining and conquering the epidemic are already known, and could prove effective if the leadership could be induced to adopt them. The lack of individual behavioral change and of the implementation of effective government policy has roots in attitudes to death and a silence about the epidemic arising from beliefs about its nature and the timing of death."


Caldwell, John C. 2000 "Rethinking the African AIDS epidemic."
Population and Development Review. 26(1):117-35.

Also:

"... two principal factors are to blame [for the AIDS epidemic in the developing countries]: first, the reluctance of national governments to take responsibility for preventing HIV infection; and second, a failure by both national governments and international agencies to set realistic priorities that can have an effect on the overall epidemic in countries with scarce resources and weak implementation capacity."

Ainsworth, Martha and Waranya Teokul 2000 "Breaking the silence: setting realistic priorities for AIDS control in less-developed countries."
The Lancet 356(9223):55-60.
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Old 06-01-2007, 11:14 PM
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It is also advantageous to the virus for the host to live longer (and perhaps be non-lethal). So with evolution, the AIDS virus will attenuate even further.

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There's a lot of misinformation here...

The reason why AIDS is so widespread is because the virus has developed complicated dormancy mechanisms. It can be present in a host for 4+ years without any symptoms. This keeps the host mobile yet infectious.

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AIDS isn't a virus.

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=HIV
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Old 06-02-2007, 03:34 AM
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"But the odds are much worse if you have sexual intercourse with
someone who's "high risk" (i.e. a gay or bisexual male, or a
hemophiliac). The odds of contracting AIDS if you have sex with
someone in this high risk group are 1 in 10,000 if you use a condom
and 1 in 1,000 if you don't use a condom.
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in the high risk group it doesn't include sex workers, any thoughts on whether a 21-27 year old prostitute who uses condoms always (my impression is some prostitues always use condoms with people) is a high risk category?
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Old 06-02-2007, 03:44 AM
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i'm trying to search aids rates in sex workers now with little luck.
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Old 06-02-2007, 10:21 AM
FortunaMaximus FortunaMaximus is offline
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Default Re: why is AIDs so widespread?

Link to Avert.org (Int'l HIV/AIDS Stats)

Fairly comprehensive, and might do for a good starting point.
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Old 06-02-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: why is AIDs so widespread?

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Link to Avert.org (Int'l HIV/AIDS Stats)

Fairly comprehensive, and might do for a good starting point.

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I love how the stat is that 5.9% of the population in Sub-Saharan Africa have it, but the MOTHEREFFING [censored] ON A MAJOR CABLE NEWS NETWORK YESTERDAY SAID "30%". Same [censored] where Oprah Winfrey said in 1986 that 1 in 5 HETEROsexuals would be dead from AIDS. Gotta scare everybody into thinking they can get it.

Also it's an atrocity that we're raising billions of dollars to throw expensive AIDS drugs at Africa. Let's start with clean water, nutritious food, hygiene, and basic medical care please.
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