TT against one of our best..Wynn 30

[Nate tha\\\' Great]

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Even so, though, why would Joe check the turn with 99/77?

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One could also ask why he'd check the turn with TT.

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Because there are a lot of ways that he's beat here?

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Oh, I know that's what Joe was thinking. What I wanted was a correct answer. Checking TT here is horrific.

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Doug's range:

66+,ATs-A9s,KTs,QTs,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,ATo-A9o,KTo,QTo,JTo

DeNiro's range:

JJ-66,ATs-A9s,KTs,QTs,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,ATo-A9o,KTo,QTo,JTo

Joe's hand:

TT

Doug's equity: 38%

DeNiro's equity: 32%

Joe's equity: 30%

[Clarkmeister]

You are too smart to throw up nonsense like that.

First, it's been clearly stated that both of those ranges that Joe used are absurd and cherry picking the best of them relative to this flop isn't particularly useful.

Second, it ignores all action on the flop, the texture of the flop, the players who are playing, the positions at play, and the size of the pot.

[Clarkmeister]

Also, an equity analysis is improper here, as opposed to preflop where it's more useful to show what a horrible play flat-calling with TT is.

[Nate tha\\\' Great]

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You are too smart to throw up nonsense like that.

First, it's been clearly stated that both of those ranges that Joe used are absurd and cherry picking the best of them relative to this flop isn't particularly useful.

Second, it ignores all action on the flop, the texture of the flop, the players who are playing, the positions at play, and the size of the pot.



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Clark,

I'm already accounting for some overplayed hands in the ranges, like I'm having them go nutso with any hand containing a T and an overcard kicker. The fact of the matter is that even if they overplay some hands, there are still a great number of hands that Joe is behind. Honestly, I think my assessment of Joe's equity is too liberal. What other hands exactly do you think they could have here?

[private joker]

Did I miss a post where it was revealed what DeNiro had?

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Did I miss a post where it was revealed what DeNiro had?

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No, but it was fairly obvious to me that had a ten or at best, A9.

[surfdoc]

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Did I miss a post where it was revealed what DeNiro had?

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No, but it was fairly obvious to me that had a ten or at best, A9.

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He had to have some sort of ten since I seriously doubt he folds A9 on that river closing the action with the turn checked through getting big:1.