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BB defense poll
Assuming no reads in full ring, which of these hands do you defend the BB with against one limper and a btn raise?
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I defended them all. Not sure what that proves, though, or how this can help; I defend a LOT of my big blinds. But I do think I make up for that after the flop, so.
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I fold almost every hand.
You guys need to check your pt stats, b/c i bet you're spewing from both blinds. |
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I only see two hands I would even conisder defending with
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I'm trying to figure out a balance between ev and which hands play better post flop. In the two simulations below 8763 has a higher ev but most players and books would recommend KQJT more.
Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation 445,905 trials (Randomized) Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins Hi Ties Hi Wins Lo Ties Lo As2s** 38.33% 78,229 101,595 10,524 186,807 39,413 AA** 34.50% 79,155 179,819 10,474 39,935 39,413 kqjt 27.17% 87,483 152,790 2,429 0 0 Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation 465,107 trials (Randomized) Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins Hi Ties Hi Wins Lo Ties Lo As2s** 32.85% 77,929 98,075 10,203 131,517 25,337 AA** 38.59% 129,036 189,717 10,269 27,336 25,427 8763 28.57% 69,680 165,374 3,432 37,933 1,036 |
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I defend with Kh 5d 3s 2h. That's it.
EDIT: I might defend with QQ54 single suited. |
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I fold almost every hand. You guys need to check your pt stats, b/c i bet you're spewing from both blinds. [/ QUOTE ] I hesitate to write this because I am currently a money loser in O8, but I think folding all of those hands is insane. QQ54 with a flush, AK86 (with the suited ace), and K235 or whatever it was have got to be profitable BB defense hands here. I think most of the other ones are too, but the above ones seem absolutely clear to me. |
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Re: BB defense poll
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I'm trying to figure out a balance between ev and which hands play better post flop. In the two simulations below 8763 has a higher ev but most players and books would recommend KQJT more. Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation 445,905 trials (Randomized) Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins Hi Ties Hi Wins Lo Ties Lo As2s** 38.33% 78,229 101,595 10,524 186,807 39,413 AA** 34.50% 79,155 179,819 10,474 39,935 39,413 kqjt 27.17% 87,483 152,790 2,429 0 0 Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation 465,107 trials (Randomized) Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins Hi Ties Hi Wins Lo Ties Lo As2s** 32.85% 77,929 98,075 10,203 131,517 25,337 AA** 38.59% 129,036 189,717 10,269 27,336 25,427 8763 28.57% 69,680 165,374 3,432 37,933 1,036 [/ QUOTE ] rev implied odds, harder to play post flop, etc. and micturition man, i'd only play qq45 and k235, with k235 being a fold to a better player's open. |
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i would guess that in monte carlo sims all these hands have more equity than 1-5,5 odds you're getting most of the time, even if you give a relatively tight range to both opps (actually i think u get more equity if the other players range is close to the raisers)...
...and that of course is only important if all you have infront of you is that 1 small bet to call... ...7/10 i would defend with and i doubt i would ever defend my reasons for it (style dependant) |
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Totally on gut instinct, I had two near definite folds -- KT94ds and QJ87ss. 7652 and JT97 were almost as bad. I would defend with most of the others most of the time.
(Pretty wishy washy answer, but it depends on my opponents and the game) |
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