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Old 02-27-2006, 01:46 PM
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Duty to protect the interests of non-cheatering customers > duty to protect the privacy interests of [douche bag] cheaters.

This argument holds morally, legally, ethically, etc.

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Old 02-27-2006, 02:06 PM
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Duty to protect the interests of non-cheatering customers > duty to protect the privacy interests of [douche bag] cheaters.

This argument holds morally, legally, ethically, etc.

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Fine, but there is no reason to expose the privacy of a cheater if there is no benefit other than gossip value for the public.
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Old 02-27-2006, 02:39 PM
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Duty to protect the interests of non-cheatering customers > duty to protect the privacy interests of [douche bag] cheaters.

This argument holds morally, legally, ethically, etc.

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Fine, but there is no reason to expose the privacy of a cheater if there is no benefit other than gossip value for the public.

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The benefit to the public is that this sort of behavior will not be tolerated. The public stockade served a similar purpose years ago.

It also benefits those who were cheated. Suppose Party came out and said they caught 3 anonymous cheaters and confiscated $400k in their accounts that will be distributed to those affected. The only way Party prevents itself from being accused of keeping the entire amount is to publicize the screen names of the cheaters so that those who were cheated can make a proper claim.

I have no desire to play with a cheater and would want to know if one ever sat at a table with me.
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Old 02-27-2006, 04:50 PM
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Indeed, however he did NOT choose to have Party release information

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Just like none of the people he cheated CHOSE to be cheated.
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Old 02-27-2006, 04:52 PM
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Fine, but there is no reason to expose the privacy of a cheater if there is no benefit other than gossip value for the public.

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You misworded that sentence. Replace the word "privacy" with "crimes/misdeeds" and then see if that sentence makes sense to you. If it does, then write your congressman to press for a constitutional ammendment treating all criminal cases as juvenile offender ones in which the criminal's name is not released and the records sealed, with the public having no way of knowing whom to watch so that they aren't victimized.

Stop identifying with cheaters, liars and thieves, and start identifying with the victim and seeing the victim's right to knowledge of who screwed him over and how.
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Old 02-27-2006, 05:40 PM
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Party didn't release anything to the public. Here's what MO'M wrote in the email to Meowed.

"A total of six accounts, all with different biographical information, were making multiple entries into the same tournament from the same IP/system."

That's it. ZeeJustin posted later with the letter that had his account names in it.
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Old 02-27-2006, 05:40 PM
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The main reason I post this is due to the extremely negative impact this will have on two individuals who commit relatively minor offences, who have been branded as cheaters and is/will be universially hated within the poker community for the foreseeable future (probably will have issues in any casino/other public places the next few years).


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Who are these individuals - certainly not anyone we have been discussing recently.
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Old 02-27-2006, 05:45 PM
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The main reason I post this is due to the extremely negative impact this will have on two individuals who commit relatively minor offences, who have been branded as cheaters and is/will be universially hated within the poker community for the foreseeable future (probably will have issues in any casino/other public places the next few years).


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Who are these individuals - certainly not anyone we have been discussing recently.

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Exactly. I am only aware of individuals who have committed certifiably major offenses of stealing over 100K each.

And if they are so worried about their poker reps, then they should find another line of WORK. Or use the money stars was nice enough to refund to them to get plastic surgery.
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Old 02-27-2006, 05:59 PM
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I wish the the users of this board would be allowed to determine how many threads they want to start about a particular topic. As long as there is no abusive language or personal attacks it should be up to the forum members to decide what they want to talk about.
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Old 02-27-2006, 06:59 PM
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You must be another multi-account cheat in order to have this opinion. Even the most liberal bleeding heart in the world would disagree with your position. Are you attempting to justify your own actions?
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