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Old 05-31-2007, 09:05 AM
hurtchow hurtchow is offline
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Default NL 25 - JJ, steamer shoves UTG, already called by one

Hey guys, before we get to the hand described in the subject, I wanted to show the hand played just prior to it.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $24.40
BB: $25.00
<font color="black">Hero (UTG): $29.25</font>
MP: $32.25
Mr Special: $33.80
BTN: $33.04

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, MP folds, Mr Special calls $1.00, 3 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($2.35) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.50</font>, Mr Special calls $1.50

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($5.35) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, Mr Special checks

<font color="black">River:</font> ($5.35) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $5.00</font>, <font color="red">Mr Special raises to $10.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $25.00</font>, Mr Special calls all-in for $21.30, Hero calls all-in for $1.75
Uncalled bet of $4.55 returned to Mr Special

Pot Size: $58.85 ($2.90 Rake)

Mr Special had J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Jacks) and LOST (-$29.25)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Queens full of Jacks) and WON (+$26.70)

So this leaves Mr Special only four bucks, and right away he shoves. Pretty sure he's got a junky hand, but wait! There's a call right away? Now we've got close to $10 in the pot, and I've got a valuable, yet vulnerable hand. What is the best play here?!?!

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $24.75
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $55.95</font>
UTG: $32.25
Mr Special: $4.55
CO: $33.04
BTN: $24.30

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Mr Special raises all-in to $4.55</font>, CO calls $4.55, 2 folds
Hero: ???????
Pot Size: $9.45
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:08 AM
Go_BroKe Go_BroKe is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 - JJ, steamer shoves UTG, already called by one

raise it to $20.
CO has a very,very wide range.
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Old 05-31-2007, 11:25 AM
Suaimhnea Suaimhnea is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 - JJ, steamer shoves UTG, already called by one

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raise it to $20.
CO has a very,very wide range.

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It's not super-wide but jacks are way ahead of most of his calling range. CO is definitely seeing the steam, a big raise will put you in a great spot with plenty of dead money in the pot.
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Old 05-31-2007, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 - JJ, steamer shoves UTG, already called by one

Shove, or fold. I shove. CO has like $29 left so you cant raise anything except all in.
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Old 05-31-2007, 11:50 AM
Speel Posher Speel Posher is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 - JJ, steamer shoves UTG, already called by one

i shove here...he probably picked up the same read you did. I think you are way ahead of his range here.
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