3/6 - sick river spot deep - Page 2

239 · #11 05-31-2007, 10:08 AM

Might help to know who the villain is.

In my opinion he hung himself and you should call. You should also probably never play qq like this.

FGators · #12 05-31-2007, 10:16 AM

I might lead the flop here or lead the turn. This whole hand is a guessing game...I would fold the river as played.

I'd 3 bet preflop regardless of his stats.

TheWorstPlayer · #13 05-31-2007, 11:26 AM

I like preflop IF we're snap calling river. That's the whole point of disguising your hand!

wtf5 · #14 05-31-2007, 12:32 PM

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I like preflop IF we're snap calling river. That's the whole point of disguising your hand!

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the guy is 30/6/1.35 calling here is terrible....hes never bluffing ever....

calling preflop is fine because ur playing for a set to break KK or AA or taking a few bets from JJ.

TheWorstPlayer · #15 05-31-2007, 12:37 PM

1.35 AF is very aggro if you're playing 30% of your hands. Besides, AF doesn't say how often you 3-barrel when your opponent takes a c/c, c/c, check line.

Hattifnatt · #16 05-31-2007, 12:38 PM

Fold river, I dont mind the rest.

wtf5 · #17 05-31-2007, 12:40 PM

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1.35 AF is very aggro if you're playing 30% of your hands. Besides, AF doesn't say how often you 3-barrel when your opponent takes a c/c, c/c, check line.

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hes not 3 barreling though, he overbet shoving the river which imo means he has AA and think its the nutz or i have top set turned full house

239 · #18 05-31-2007, 01:45 PM

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I like preflop IF we're snap calling river. That's the whole point of disguising your hand!

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I agree with this but it doesn't seem like the OP is capable of calling it off when he induces this type of action with his line. Therefore I don't think he should ever play qq this way.

As for everyone saying this is never a bluff or a hand you beat you're all out of your mind, imo.

Chris

wrkingtobegreat · #19 05-31-2007, 02:23 PM

*grunch* I love your line preflop, flop and turn checking. I think its a great way to get value and disguise your overpair. However I think you must raise this turn bet. Giving one freecard on the flop and trapping vil on turn is great, but river=not so good. 2 chances to flop overcards/hit straights or whatever the hell he has on this river. As played I would probably......fold.

wrkingtobegreat · #20 05-31-2007, 02:27 PM

the middle number means voluntarily raises on those stats right. my bad dont use pokertracker. ACTUALLY that changes things and makes it way more likely he has kk/aa snapfold.