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Old 05-29-2007, 09:20 PM
ImsaKidd ImsaKidd is offline
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Curtains,

A few months ago I've played with some numbers on resteals. I decided that I would rather resteal against an aggro button with A7o than TJs. For discussion lets say 20bb.

Agree/disagree

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Can you find a calling range where A7o has better equity than JTs? At 20BB I think it would be very difficult/nearly impossible.

And I think the A9 is definitely a +EV shove. It is very close as curtains mentioned.
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: $100r pushbot check up

bah meant TJo but rather have a7o than like 56s
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:00 PM
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if we get called here by 88+ our tournament is over if we have 7 high.

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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 26.774% 26.51% 00.27% 37220217 372647.50 { 7h3h }
Hand 1: 73.226% 72.96% 00.27% 102443416 372647.50 { 88+, AJs+, KQs, AQo+}

also, how is 9xBB not "red zone short"?

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That calling range is way too tight though. I folded the first two, and pushed the third one. I think it's really close and basically the border line as I'd def shove AT and fold A8.

Oh and I agree Curtains' posts are awesome.
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: $100r pushbot check up

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Curtains,

A few months ago I've played with some numbers on resteals. I decided that I would rather resteal against an aggro button with A7o than TJs. For discussion lets say 20bb.

Agree/disagree

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I dunno would have to think about it some. It's always nice to have an ace because you are never drawing really really slim unless they have AA. Offhand I'd definitely prefer JTs, but I only have a few minutes now so will try to go into deeper detail later [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-30-2007, 12:37 AM
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bah meant TJo but rather have a7o than like 56s

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Oh, yes you are probably correct. 65s is not a good hand. A7o almost always has some decent chance around 25-30% and very occasionally ahead when they make weird calls with KQs type hands (and they definitely do this sometimes). Meanwhile their range has changed so that they are less likely to hold an ace.

65s meanwhile is often completely crushed against overpairs, but of course has the advantage of being more reasonable against overcards. But yea you are almost certainly correct that A7o is better than 65s in such a spot, when dealing with a typical aggressive button's range.
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:42 PM
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Sorry for being unclear, was watching House while posting.

MEant to say TJs(generally )>A7o>Tjo>56s
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Old 05-30-2007, 07:28 PM
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There is no pushbotting with an M of about 7.5!

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Old 05-30-2007, 07:44 PM
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I sometimes push the 73s if table conditions are right. I'm pretty sure it's clearly the best of the 3.
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:27 PM
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I sometimes push the 73s if table conditions are right. I'm pretty sure it's clearly the best of the 3.

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I'd bet A9o is the best. It's almost ok if your hand is face up.
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:59 AM
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I'm not worried about people calling perfectly. In general people call waaaaay too tight in these situations and I'm pretty sure having 2 less people to worry about waking up with a monster is worth a lot more than the extra 2% equity the times you're called. The only thing A9 has going for it is people will give that super extra respect because it's from EP.
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