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Re: 2/4, pow! donkbet!
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if he has missed overs you want him to fold flop c/r [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but you'd rather he pays two small bets on the flop than zero. |
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Re: 2/4, pow! donkbet!
I doubt he is folding overs getting 7.5:1.
One problem with donking here is that you give CO the perfect opportunity to protect his own hand. |
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Re: 2/4, pow! donkbet!
Also, if it had been the BTN who was the PFR and not the CO, a donk might be a little better since then the CO might fold overs fearing that the BTN (PFR in this scenario) might raise. This again would still not be great since a c/r there is even better since you could force CO to call 2.
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Re: 2/4, pow! donkbet!
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I doubt he is folding overs getting 7.5:1. One problem with donking here is that you give CO the perfect opportunity to protect his own hand. [/ QUOTE ] meh.. Wookie already said this.. but it still rings true. |
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Re: 2/4, pow! donkbet!
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if he has missed overs you want him to fold flop c/r [/ QUOTE ] is he really folding to a flop c/r w/ overs getting 10.5:1 if BTN calls or 9.5:1 even if BTN folds? |
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Re: 2/4, pow! donkbet!
if i am co here and bet ak or whatever and it goes call c/r so it's one back to me, i'm always calling.
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Re: 2/4, pow! donkbet!
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if i am co here and bet ak or whatever and it goes call c/r so it's one back to me, i'm always calling. [/ QUOTE ] That was exactly my point. No one is folding overs here to a c/r. |
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Re: 2/4, pow! donkbet!
here's what i was thinking about: CO can protect my hand
[/ QUOTE ] http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...part=1&vc=1 There's a discussion specifically about this play starting at the bottom of page 3. |
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Re: 2/4, pow! donkbet!
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I doubt he is folding overs getting 7.5:1. One problem with donking here is that you give CO the perfect opportunity to protect his own hand. [/ QUOTE ] But isn't it correct to fold overs here getting only 7.5 to 1? If not then this has been a major leak in my game. For instance I raise with AK from co. BB calls, flop comes rags he donks I fold. Or same scenario but he c/r's me. Unless I have a read that he bluffs frequently then I fold. Does this mean I'm folding way to much on the flop? Could you please explain why you should continue without corrent odds or implied odds to call? |
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Re: 2/4, pow! donkbet!
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[ QUOTE ] if he has missed overs you want him to fold flop c/r [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but you'd rather he pays two small bets on the flop than zero. [/ QUOTE ] I don't disagree that the purpose of checkraising is for value. However, if he bets with overcards, and then folds to our checkraise, that is a bonus. |
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