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Old 05-30-2007, 11:54 AM
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Default I f\'n hate donkbets holding QQ (NL25)

UTG is 46/14/2 over 100 hands.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $10.00
BB: $23.60
UTG: $38.75
UTG+1: $18.55
MP1: $12.30
MP2: $31.20
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $23.90</font>
BTN: $29.10

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.00, 2 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($3.35) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.30</font>, UTG calls $3.30

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($9.95) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $5.25</font>, Hero....

am i calling down here? pushing? folding? ughhh donkbets
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Old 05-30-2007, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: I f\'n hate donkbets holding QQ (NL25)

you're ahead here most of the time

many more ways he can have a jack or draw than a T or 33. i think raising the turn is correct, but with teh way i'm running lately, i'm scared to give any advice
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Old 05-30-2007, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: I f\'n hate donkbets holding QQ (NL25)

He can go f himself with that bet, if he has a T then well played cos I'm pushing here every single time. You could prob. raise a bit more pf though.
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Old 05-30-2007, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: I f\'n hate donkbets holding QQ (NL25)

-Raise to about 7x bb in this case.
-Push turn.
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Old 05-30-2007, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: I f\'n hate donkbets holding QQ (NL25)

all in yo
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:36 PM
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Default Re: I f\'n hate donkbets holding QQ (NL25)

His range suggests a Jx, Tx, diamonds. You are ahead of 2 of these, but your also in a WA/WB situation. I call to maintain pot control

Edit: would someone who advocated push explain why?

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Old 05-30-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: I f\'n hate donkbets holding QQ (NL25)

you push because a) there is 15 in the pot (so any raise is really a push) b) fishcakes isn't folding a jack or draw c) for every hand with a ten (8 combos for most part) there are 12 ways he can have a jack d) he blocked the turn e) there are draws galore (though a little than usual since we have two of the queens) f) he puts us on overs g) no one has ever folded a jack here
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: I f\'n hate donkbets holding QQ (NL25)

Dont Think its that clear cut to be honest. He limp calls which smells of a pocket pair or possibly AT, but also possibly suited connecters giving his range. Id really like to know more about the villain before making the decision but with the above info ill just call the turn.

I think calling the full pot bet on the turn and leading on turn is usually a sign of alot of strength. Considering its a draw heavy board id be even more wary. This could easily be 33 on AT here, id call the turn bet because we have position and fold to another reasonable bet on the river because i think a bet on the river signals hes not afraid of that board at all.
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: I f\'n hate donkbets holding QQ (NL25)

smells soo bad of pocket 3's.... rele smelly....
you either push it all in or fold...
i fold and wait for a better situation
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: I f\'n hate donkbets holding QQ (NL25)

just shove his range is soooooo wide that a shove is good here. this just isnt 33 IMO c/c donk turn line from a bad player is not a set they almost always look to c/r turn or wait to get to river and minraise or some crap like that. I mean a T is def in his range but your ahead most of the time and will get paid off by a jack if you push.
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