T7 hitting straight on river.

[ShowMEyourHAND]

No i would also reraise him giving your value in the longrun when he is overplaying 2 pairs and stuff like that

[Panthro]

I'd just call his raise unless he's terrible.

[dbthdo]

i'd just call here too..

[kongo_totte]

Call river raise looks good, mostly because you're gonna have a v. difficult decision if 4-bet. As you did 3-bet, I'd strongly consider folding to his 4-bet. He has kinda nitty stats, I'd expect to be shown the nuts a v. big % of the time.

[Sorcerer808]

I don't understand why you would all just call the raise? his $1 bet on turn doesn't look like QT to me... more like a donk with 88 or J8. He obv doesn't have J8 after he 4bet but I'm still not folding this. Please explain ?

[DawnToDusk]

Button didn't bet $1 on the turn. He just called it.

Another thing. What worse hands do you expect him to 4bet with given how the hand played out and his stats?

[Sorcerer808]

Oh, I thought it was against button on the river for w/e reason. This changes things a lot, I might fold to the 4b but im still 3betting this and will feel really stupid laying down the 2nd nuts at 100nl, a lot of players look sane until they take this line with 44...

[wrkingtobegreat]

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I'd just call his raise unless he's terrible.

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What are you guys thinking? You know, SOMETIMES in poker it is OK to raise without the stone-cold nuts. Our hand can only lose to exactly q10. As long as it is equally likely villain DOESN"T have q10 as that he DOES, this would be an easy reraise (with a 50 percent coinflip and money already in the pot)Fact is it is MORE likely that he doesn't have q10. At least 60 percent. His range could include: 99, 89,A9, slowplayed 88, A4, AJ, and god knows what esle. Am i saying he wont show up alot with q10? absolutely not. But it wont be more than half the time, and thats why you want all your money in this pot.

[MLRTS]

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I'd just call his raise unless he's terrible.

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What are you guys thinking? You know, SOMETIMES in poker it is OK to raise without the stone-cold nuts. Our hand can only lose to exactly q10. As long as it is equally likely villain DOESN"T have q10 as that he DOES, this would be an easy reraise (with a 50 percent coinflip and money already in the pot)Fact is it is MORE likely that he doesn't have q10. At least 60 percent. His range could include: 99, 89,A9, slowplayed 88, A4, AJ, and god knows what esle. Am i saying he wont show up alot with q10? absolutely not. But it wont be more than half the time, and thats why you want all your money in this pot.

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I don't see villain having two pair here a lot of the time. 2P and the river play does not compute with those stats. Can't really put him on much except a straight. He would probably raise 88, 99 pf.

Spin it around, what kind of a player bets A9 like this on river? He would have to be extremely stupid and the stats doesnt scream "idiot" to me.

Of course, this all depends on villain. I won't assume him
to be as bad as you seem to think he is.

[DawnToDusk]

I agree with MLRTS in the below post. Unless OP has a very loose image I don't see our vill putting in 4bets with two pair here and 88/99 is in our vills PF raising range.