100nl: Nut flush draw 3-way

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Pretty easy call I think. Only problem is some of our "outs" are tainted, like hitting two pair or trips can have some nasty reverse implied odds. But I'd at least call here and might even shove. I like calling though because there are many worse draws we don't want to force off the hand.

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I really doubt our Ace is any good. Button's most likely hand is AK or better, maybe KQo. And I think the BB could obviously have a big hand also.

How many outs on Avg do u think we have?

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Even if were dead to a spade I'm calling this flop.

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because you can make so much back when you hit? 9 outs/ 45 cards = 1/5 and we're one of three people so we have to make that up. also our draw is one of the most obvious with our line, after coldcalling a bet and raise??

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Pretty easy call I think. Only problem is some of our "outs" are tainted, like hitting two pair or trips can have some nasty reverse implied odds. But I'd at least call here and might even shove. I like calling though because there are many worse draws we don't want to force off the hand.

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I really doubt our Ace is any good. Button's most likely hand is AK or better, maybe KQo. And I think the BB could obviously have a big hand also.

How many outs on Avg do u think we have?

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Even if were dead to a spade I'm calling this flop.

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because you can make so much back when you hit? 9 outs/ 45 cards = 1/5 and we're one of three people so we have to make that up. also our draw is one of the most obvious with our line, after coldcalling a bet and raise??

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Maybe shoving flop has its merits then, you have alot of FE and even if you get a caller you are probably even money at worst. I feel there is advantages to just calling this flop so deep though.

[Paul Thomson]

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Pretty easy call I think. Only problem is some of our "outs" are tainted, like hitting two pair or trips can have some nasty reverse implied odds. But I'd at least call here and might even shove. I like calling though because there are many worse draws we don't want to force off the hand.

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I really doubt our Ace is any good. Button's most likely hand is AK or better, maybe KQo. And I think the BB could obviously have a big hand also.

How many outs on Avg do u think we have?

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Even if were dead to a spade I'm calling this flop.

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because you can make so much back when you hit? 9 outs/ 45 cards = 1/5 and we're one of three people so we have to make that up. also our draw is one of the most obvious with our line, after coldcalling a bet and raise??

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Maybe shoving flop has its merits then, you have alot of FE and even if you get a caller you are probably even money at worst. I feel there is advantages to just calling this flop so deep though.

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I'm not sure if we have alot of FE. We do in the sense that we'll get mediocre hands to fold, but what makes you think given flop action that anyone has a meidocre hand.

Do you think pushing makes our hand look like a draw...i don't necessarily think so, but just throwing it out there.

[DJ Sensei]

donk the flop and 3-bet it if raised.

coldcalling a bet and raise after checking, meh... i'd prefer to cold 3-bet it there instead. the reason being most of the time you miss on the turn, and then you are in a crap spot. dont fold it, though, thats for sure.

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i like the idea that bb folds a king if we 3bet/shove the flop.

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i like the idea that bb folds a king if we 3bet/shove the flop.

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also playing the flop that way makes our hand look like AK so we might be more likely to be called by the weaker draw.

[theplux]

i highly doubt we have any FE on that flop. Pushing would be vilain oriented here, it COULD be good but I like a call a lot more and it's NL100 so.
i don't understand people thinking of folding that on the flop..so weak.