future of the online cardrooms

[flavio321]

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I used to play 25nl and 50nl on pokerstars, starting right before the legislation. I did O.K., but when I started playing live I couldn't believe how bad the play was at 5-5 nl. the .1/.25 players are ten times tougher than these casino players. 1-2 nl is even worse. I'd always played online until recently, but once i played live i don't see any reason to ever play online again, except for tournaments. log on to pokerstars and watch a .25/.50 limit ring game, and watch how many times they all fold around to the big blind and never even take a flop. com pare that to any 3-6-12 live game in the U.S., where the pot is routinely capped before the flop with 6 or more players in. I think the days of partypoker are over.

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i agree with jimmy with the quality of live vs. online games. at a 1-2 nl live game you'd be considered crazy if you make the first raise to anything less than $10.

[Xylem]

Im making 10bbs an hour, but that was when there were total maniacs and im finding less and less of these where i play.

The usual players/flop is 33% now and thats bloody tight for low limits.

Yes they will make a few mistakes but to capitalise on them ud have to (imo) grind them as opposed to trap them with ABC poker.

[Xylem]

Too sethy, to beat fish you must get payed off, not just minimise losses...

Therefore it does compute.

[sethypooh21]

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Too sethy, to beat fish you must get payed off, not just minimise losses...

Therefore it does compute.

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Still not so much. He played his hand horrifically, and you're complaining that his lack of aggression with a monster makes a game "tough"? If he plays JT and T7 in the exact same passive manner on a J77 board when you have AJ, this is good for you, DUCY? If he always plays T7 and sometimes plays JT aggressively on the same board, the game just got much tougher for you.

[Xylem]

Yes his caution in that instance helped, but the priority of ABC play against fish is value bets and maximum extraction.

Against a player that wont invest when u hit big this is impossible and so it becomes a tougher game.