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Old 05-29-2007, 04:58 PM
crashjr crashjr is offline
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Default Re: Mover\'s Vegas Trip Report - in stages - all NL poker

Nice TR people mover. The gangsta prose is a bit much, but solid effort all around.

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So I smack my 500 on the table and run it up to like 650.00 or so when it folds to the SB who raises to like 25.00, so I pop to 75.00 to AKs and he shoves for like 150.00 more and I lose the flip vs. QQ. Oh well.



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QQ against AKs is not a coinflip. He has a MADE hand. You have nothing but overcards. I hate when people say these hands are coinflips.

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It is close enough to a 50/50 split* that people call it a coin flip for convenience. You do realize that some draws are actually ahead of "made hands", right? Or did you take high school math class from PM's English comp. teacher?

* http://twodimes.net/h/?z=9424
pokenum -h qc qs - ah kh
Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qs Qc 917606 53.59 787966 46.02 6732 0.39 0.538
Ah Kh 787966 46.02 917606 53.59 6732 0.39 0.462
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Old 05-29-2007, 05:04 PM
Gabbbbyyyy Gabbbbyyyy is offline
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Default Re: Mover\'s Vegas Trip Report - in stages - all NL poker

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Nice TR people mover. The gangsta prose is a bit much, but solid effort all around.

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So I smack my 500 on the table and run it up to like 650.00 or so when it folds to the SB who raises to like 25.00, so I pop to 75.00 to AKs and he shoves for like 150.00 more and I lose the flip vs. QQ. Oh well.



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QQ against AKs is not a coinflip. He has a MADE hand. You have nothing but overcards. I hate when people say these hands are coinflips.

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It is close enough to a 50/50 split* that people call it a coin flip for convenience. You do realize that some draws are actually ahead of "made hands", right? Or did you take high school math class from PM's English comp. teacher?

* http://twodimes.net/h/?z=9424
pokenum -h qc qs - ah kh
Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qs Qc 917606 53.59 787966 46.02 6732 0.39 0.538
Ah Kh 787966 46.02 917606 53.59 6732 0.39 0.462

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Funny how you use the hearts for the AK, and have the QQ holder as having no hearts. That can drastically move the percentage by 5 percent. 60-40 in that case is not a coinflip.
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Old 05-29-2007, 08:42 PM
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Default Re: Mover\'s Vegas Trip Report - in stages - all NL poker

I love how the tone of this TR changed from his first post to his second.

First post: Balla woot woot I pwn U $$$ ???wtf???

Second post: People suck. Poker sucks. Everybody sucks.

The difference between winning & losing, or the difference between a balla TR and a rushed TR? YOU DECIDE!

Anyway, I thought the play with the TT was pretty bad. Easy fold on the river. The KK play in the first hand wasn't bad -- QQ was about the only hand there you could beat. Nice lay down.
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:39 PM
David LoPan David LoPan is offline
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Default Re: Mover\'s Vegas Trip Report - in stages - all NL poker

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I love how the tone of this TR changed from his first post to his second.


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yea LoL, this guy should not be posting in strat anytime soon...

some of these hands are just plain horrible.
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:59 PM
LrdNikon LrdNikon is offline
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Default Re: Mover\'s Vegas Trip Report - in stages - all NL poker

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Nice TR people mover. The gangsta prose is a bit much, but solid effort all around.

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So I smack my 500 on the table and run it up to like 650.00 or so when it folds to the SB who raises to like 25.00, so I pop to 75.00 to AKs and he shoves for like 150.00 more and I lose the flip vs. QQ. Oh well.



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QQ against AKs is not a coinflip. He has a MADE hand. You have nothing but overcards. I hate when people say these hands are coinflips.

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It is close enough to a 50/50 split* that people call it a coin flip for convenience. You do realize that some draws are actually ahead of "made hands", right? Or did you take high school math class from PM's English comp. teacher?

* http://twodimes.net/h/?z=9424
pokenum -h qc qs - ah kh
Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qs Qc 917606 53.59 787966 46.02 6732 0.39 0.538
Ah Kh 787966 46.02 917606 53.59 6732 0.39 0.462

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Funny how you use the hearts for the AK, and have the QQ holder as having no hearts. That can drastically move the percentage by 5 percent. 60-40 in that case is not a coinflip.

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O RLY?

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=91239
pokenum -h qh qs - ah kh
Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qs Qh 922599 53.88 781594 45.65 8111 0.47 0.541
Ah Kh 781594 45.65 922599 53.88 8111 0.47 0.459
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:57 AM
ijustliketoplay ijustliketoplay is offline
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Default Re: Mover\'s Vegas Trip Report - in stages - all NL poker

nice rep. i wanna run that hot when im vegas next...
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:45 PM
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Default Final Day & Closing

After dropping 900 at Venetian and another 400 at Bellagio, I went to sleep at like 2:30 am. I saw Phil Hellmuth playing Sheikan in Bobby's room. I think sheeky gave me 20K and left pretty fast. I know Hellmuth signed for a 100K marker for all you people that wanted to know how much philly was sitting on. There were two other people there, but I didn't know who they were.

I woke up around 9:00 am or so, ordered some room service pancakes for 23.00 and started packing. I packed up all my stuff and checked my bag at the luggage with the bell station. I had to be out of my room at 1:00 p.m., but my flight didn't leave until 10:30 p.m., so I decided to grind the 1/2NL 200 max game at PH again. They only had 2 tables running, i think I had a 50% VPIP. I flopped some sets, but didn't play a pot over 150.00. I bluffed a lot and when it was time to cash out at 8:30 p.m. I had 813.00. I cabbed it to the airport which was $9.70. Yes, the airport is that close to the strip. It's only a 10 minute ride. I threw the cabbie a 20 spot and started walking off and he said, "want change?" I didn't even turn around. He seemed like a nice guy and needed the money more than me. I had the most expensive beer I've ever paid for at Pickly Pears in the airport. An 11.00 stella draft. I think it was 40 ozs. It was heavy, so I drank it pretty fast and drank another 20 ozer before assing out on the plane before liftoff. I woke up with the captain saying 10 minutes until we touch ground in Orlando. It was 5:50 am and I had to be in my office at 9:00 am. I got home, kissed my wife to be (17 more days) and hit the bed face first and woke up at around 11 am. I'm here now feeling like a zombie.

Closing:

I left with 4400.00 and wanted to take a shot at 5/10NL but I didn't do it because I'm a pooosy. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Oh well. I staked a friend in the 1/2NL game and he ran super bad. 99 on a 9 5 5 board vs. A5, river 5, and AA < KK all in preflop when KK makes a flush, and AQ all in on a Q x x flop vs. AK, river K. was pretty sick to watch, so I lost 550.00 staking him, but I still have 5900.00 with me good for +1500.00 on the trip. My hotel ended up being 59.00/night for Sunday - Thursday and Friday/Sat was 119.00. With room service breakfasts, cheeseburgers, internet for 3-4 days (busted all the majors without cashing. boooo), I think my check out bill was 728.00 + the 364.00 plane ticket, so vegas paid for itself.

The internet games may be washing up, but there will always be Vegas. I think 6-7 days is TOO long in Vegas. I honestly feel for you Vegas "pros" who sit at the tables and grind for a living. After the 4th day, I wanted to put a shotgun to my head. The bad beat stories never change, the whiners will always be whiners. The play still sucks bad. I mean, really bad. Worse than I remember (was there last year for the series) People did talk more about internet poker last year than this year.

I never got to play at the Wynn, however I offer my review on some of the rooms:

Planet Hollywood - it's honestly a really nice room that for some reason hasn't kicked it off the ground yet. The piano man does get annoying for some people, but if you're drinking, you tend to sing along with him and it's really not unbearable for those who are there for a fun time. The kid that plays and sings is actually very talented. They have maybe 15 tables or so and only once did I see it empty. They do need to get the TVs up though. The floor managers are nice and the dealers are 8-9 on a scale to 10. The cocktail waitresses are attractive (except for maybe 2 that were old and busted). The play was weak and loose. Lots of check/calling. Easy game to beat if you know anything about NL. I played 17 hours one day and I asked for a comp and he gave me 15.00 ticket to Planet Dailies where I ate almost every day. The food is average - good, but 2.75 for a fountain soda is a huge rip off as is 5.50 for an Amstel Light.

Bellagio - Smallest game they offer is 2/5NL and before I left, I read tons of reviews on how these games are hard to beat, etc... well they are all a lie. If you play TAG poker and wait for hands, you will do just fine. I also read that floor management is cocky and not very helpful, etc.. and well, that part is true. I sat at the host stand for maybe 10 minutes before someone asked what I wanted. ummm.... it's a poker room, maybe I wanna play poker? They are a bunch of jerks and aren't helpful at all. I won't name names though. They had a 40/80 mixed game that I watched while I waited for a seat and wow that action and game is sick. 2/7 low ball triple draw or whatever is crazy. I want to learn that game. Average stacks are probably 3-5K there. Fun to watch and it was right in the middle of room. The waitresses are above average, but they all have bitchy attitudes. I asked for a Sobe (PH has them) and the lady basically embarrassed me in front of the whole table saying zoobie? zobe? zzambie? no, we don't have that, so I just ordered a bottle of water and when I finished it 30 minutes later, she came by and asked if I wanted another zoombie. I racked up and left. fu.cking cu.nt.

Caesars - Tigher than the WSOP. 2/5 uncapped. Most people buy in for 500.00. Biggest stack I saw was around 1.2K. It would fold around to the blinds probably 2-3 times an orbit. The room makes me feel chlostrophobic for some reason. I won't play there again and the waitresses are sub par. There's a club right outside the poker room which was jamming. I drink a lot of water when I'm playing (or beer) so I had a piss a lot and the bathrooms were disgusting. piss everywhere, tp everywhere. all of the drunk abercrombie wanna bes - just throws you off your game a bit.

Venetian - beautiful room, lots of space between the tables, nice staff, nice waitresses - definitely love this room. I saw Gavin Smith playing the 540.00 which I wanted to try out, but pussied out. The dealers are good. I think I only saw one mistake. Floor was nice and saw him handle a few situations correctly and honestly even though a guy was in his face yelling and screaming.

So that's about it. If I think of anything else, maybe I'll make a new post.
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Old 05-30-2007, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: Mover\'s Vegas Trip Report - in stages - all NL poker

God I love live poker in vegas, LOL is all I have to say.

ship 3500 w/ zero bluffing and only value betting @ 5/10 nl in 3 days ~20 hours.
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Old 06-01-2007, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: Mover\'s Vegas Trip Report - in stages - all NL poker

thanks for taking the time to write this up...No MGM, i thought that was the 1/2nl stomping ground!
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