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[ZJ123]

Fold them all i thinkk

[ChieftanMews]

Thanks for explaining my point more thoroughly curtains.

I understand nath's point though, saying that you may not even get a 'good' hand like a SC in that position. I'd say it also depends on the table dynamics. If it's a generally LAGgy table, you may want to push w/ A9 there, where as it's a TAGgy table you may not want to push w/ A9.

[curtains]

Mathematically A9o is probably a fold. It's about break even if they can see your cards and call with all better hands (which they won't do), but this assumes that no one is overcalling ever.

Because you are in early position its quite plausible to get called by JJ and AK or AQ, which is a huge disaster, and probably means you need slightly less to make a simple allin profitable.

On the flip side people are going to fold very small pairs and hands like ATo. So I'm not sure really, but I'd probably fold. In any case I'm sure its quite close.

[Bonified]

M4 right ? 73s with 4 players behind you is close. J8 with 5 I would let go. A9 with 6 is also very close.

The close ones are close enough for me to use my "tie-breaker" which is how many pots are being opened in front of you. If it's more than usual, I'd shove in either situation.

Caveat : the 73s hand is very dependent on your current image, while A9 isn't really.

[shaundeeb]

I fold first 2 and always shove the last one it's like half the stack of others. So I think they fold AJ if they aren't in a blind.

[FGators]

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Sometimes I push all 3 but I think on balance I fold the first two mostly but not the third

Also I think anyone who uses the phrase "wait for a better spot" should not post in the forum. A better spot doesn't always come. The question is if, all things considered, this spot is good enough. Even if you want to wait for a better spot, you might need the chips you'd get from THIS spot to take full advantage of it.

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I have a problem with waiting too long in tournaments but if we get called here by 88+ our tournament is over if we have 7 high. Its not like we are Red Zone short here so I think all 3 of these are folds...

Still Im not sure but I think "waiting for a better spot" is how I'd treat a hand like 37 with our 5400 stack size in hand 1. If we called we are out anyway..Id rather fold to 3500 and the blinds 400/800 and get it in with JJ and have a great chance of doubling up then pushing with 37 and getting called by QQ.

Scold me now...

[nath]

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if we get called here by 88+ our tournament is over if we have 7 high.

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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 26.774% 26.51% 00.27% 37220217 372647.50 { 7h3h }
Hand 1: 73.226% 72.96% 00.27% 102443416 372647.50 { 88+, AJs+, KQs, AQo+}

also, how is 9xBB not "red zone short"?

[Clayton]

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Still, I'd rather push with something like a SC from this spot than any ace or king. In MP or later I'd say definately push. Here: meh.

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:rolls eyes:

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knock off the douchery plz kthx

people need to be more like curtains

[KingDan]

Curtains,

A few months ago I've played with some numbers on resteals. I decided that I would rather resteal against an aggro button with A7o than TJs. For discussion lets say 20bb.

Agree/disagree