WTF to do when a passive player puts you all in.....

[Paul Thomson]

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I estimate that he'd play AT,JJ-KK like this too, and maybe even KT. There are more hands that hero beats than he doesn't so imo it's a call.

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Overpairs didn't even enter my head when playing this hand. Should they?

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of course not

[Wolfram]

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This is a set almost always imo, easy fold

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I passionately disagree. You don't think this guy will slowplay a set just a little before pushing?

I estimate that he'd play AT,JJ-KK like this too, and maybe even KT. There are more hands that hero beats than he doesn't so imo it's a call.

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Even loose-passive nits know how to raise QQ-AA preflop. Given his passiveness, you really think he plays top pair so agressively? Are you willing to bet even money that this is so?

The massive overbet gives such terrible odds that I don't think it's callable

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This guy has raised 0% of his hands preflop, so I wouldn't put it past him to limp/call kings. Some players just like to see if the Ace flops before they go all in.

Also, I belive that his low aggression numbers get distorted due to the fact that he limps so many hands, but never raises preflop. His post-flop aggression could be quite normal (but I'm no PT expert, so somebody else could chime in).

His stats are just so weird/terrible that I wouldn't put anything past him. I just don't trust this guy to play logically, so I make the standard play. I think we need a more solid read to fold in this spot.

[mikechops]

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I estimate that he'd play AT,JJ-KK like this too, and maybe even KT. There are more hands that hero beats than he doesn't so imo it's a call.

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Overpairs didn't even enter my head when playing this hand. Should they?

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of course not

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Normally I'd agree but this guy has a PFR of ZERO over 100 hands...

[Wolfram]

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i'm not saying that calling is wrong, but your range of hands for Villain is bad given preflop.

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If we include overpairs and TPTK our range is fine. Anything else (TPNK, OESD) is just gravy.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

60,390 games 0.005 secs 12,078,000 games/sec

Board: Th 7s 5d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.175% 48.36% 00.82% 29202 495.00 { AhAs }
Hand 1: 50.825% 50.00% 00.82% 30198 495.00 { TT+, 77, 55, ATs, T7s, T5s, 75s, ATo, T7o, T5o, 75o }

[shpanko]

looks like as easy call mang

[benedetti]

I've played this hand before and the guy used to have AT or JJ.

[criminaldave]

Putting this guy on a range of hands was exceptionally difficult and the reason why i let my timer count all the way down. In the end I felt straight draws were unlikely so I was down to sets and AT/KT. Wolfram nailed my thinking when he said villain would probably try to slowplay a set and that's why i called.

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I wouldn't put it past him to limp/call kings. Some players just like to see if the Ace flops before they go all in.


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Winner. Nice read sir. Villain did indeed have KK. I rivered an Ace anyway and mhig.

[bboy_]

gotta call

[Unknown Soldier]

fold and take AT out of range and put only 1/2 of JJ+ in