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Old 05-27-2007, 07:33 PM
hotlikepolpot hotlikepolpot is offline
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Default AQ oop Party 600nl

Hi all i'm new to MSNL and wondered what you thought of this hand?

Seat 4: BESTHNDWON ( $600 USD )
Seat 3: Mary_1959 ( $1,800 USD )
Seat 5: Tommys_Angel ( $1,549.45 USD )
Seat 1: Hero ( $648.50 USD )
Seat 6: omiddan ( $168.50 USD )
Seat 2: I_raise_u2 ( $600 USD )

Tommys_Angel posts small blind [$3 USD].
omiddan posts big blind [$6 USD].
I_raise_u2 posts big blind [$6 USD].

Dealt to Hero [ As Qh ]

Hero raises [$27 USD]
Mary_1959 raises [$97 USD]
Hero calls [$70 USD]

** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 8s, 9c ]

Hero checks.
Mary_1959 bets [$155 USD]
Hero calls [$155 USD]

** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]

Hero checks.
Mary_1959 checks.

** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]

Hero checks.
Mary_1959 bets [$400 USD]
Hero ???

I think Mary is a mid stakes reg playing about 22/19. Do you guys have any more specific reads or opinions on her play?
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Old 05-27-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: AQ oop Party 600nl

You raise/call AQo from the UTG?
=> easy fold

I would fold to the Rivershove.

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Old 05-27-2007, 08:09 PM
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yeah i prolly let this go pf, if hes smart hes not gonna try and bluff you off an ace

i think i let this one go...
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: AQ oop Party 600nl

Thanks for the advicce, just out of interest what hands do you call the 3 bet with here?
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: AQ oop Party 600nl

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Thanks for the advicce, just out of interest what hands do you call the 3 bet with here?

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Well if you think of his range i would say 99++ / AK. On the other hand - with his PF raise of 19 he must raise and reraise a lot of hands to achieve this number.
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: AQ oop Party 600nl

I can't tell, where did you raise from? This is confusing.

Looks like you raised UTG and he 3bet in the CO. I would fold preflop being OOP and having been 3-bet after raising UTG. If he is smart, I don't think he is going to have a very wide range in this situation.

With that said, I think his range is AK and air, and sometimes AQ/AJ (rarely). So I'd call the river. I can't see him ever checking two pair or a set on the turn, but he could very likely have AK. But that's the only hand I can see that beats us, and there are just a lot more bluffs he can show up with here, so I'd call the river, although it's close.

FWIW, if you guys were deeper I would love a river c/r to get him off AK.
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Old 05-27-2007, 09:55 PM
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I can't tell, where did you raise from? This is confusing.

Looks like you raised UTG and he 3bet in the CO. I would fold preflop being OOP and having been 3-bet after raising UTG. If he is smart, I don't think he is going to have a very wide range in this situation.

With that said, I think his range is AK and air, and sometimes AQ/AJ (rarely). So I'd call the river. I can't see him ever checking two pair or a set on the turn, but he could very likely have AK. But that's the only hand I can see that beats us, and there are just a lot more bluffs he can show up with here, so I'd call the river, although it's close.

FWIW, if you guys were deeper I would love a river c/r to get him off AK.

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i dunno man he could check alot of hands there to be deceptive or ak for pot control and then go for value on the river but he only value bets ak+ i think maybe aq, aj has showdown value but doesnt bet river

and to answer ops second question i dont play much oop when 3bet unless there is a really good reason, so strong pairs, all pairs with set odds and depending on villain ak (obvi mix in 4bets etc)
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Old 05-27-2007, 10:35 PM
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He is never slowplaying anything on the turn if he is decent. There are a lot of ugly river cards for sets and two pair. His range is basically AK, air, and the occasional AQ/AJ, IMO.
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Old 05-27-2007, 10:45 PM
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fold preflop oop, even in position is questionable
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Old 05-27-2007, 10:49 PM
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You raise/call AQo from the UTG?
=> easy fold

I would fold to the Rivershove.

btw.: you find a better converter under...
http://www.learnhowtoplaypokerfree.c...rt/convert.cgi


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also, your screename made me laugh for some reason.

here is an avatar!!

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